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#1 WNYTractorTinkerer OFFLINE  

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Posted January 29, 2014 - 10:24 AM

Rant for Wednesday!!

 

Spent half a day yesterday removing/rewiring these exact connectors in a friend's house-->.  CLICK HERE

 

As there was a recent GFCI main panel installation these dang things don't connect the wires well and when a sizable load is applied it pops the breaker off..  Yeah, they are great for the installers as it is quick and easy to just push the wires into it and presto-, you're done!  Problem is that they just don't connect the wires very well & the contacting surface is small due to the design..  I can't believe they got these things approved in the first place..  Unbelievable!!  If somebody uses these on an old style main panel I can see them heating up and we all know what that could cause..  The owner plugged a saw into the 2nd plug in a 6-plug run and it popped..  It won't happen again as I wired the thing wire-to wire..  

 

I'll NEVER use any of these things when I wire anything!!!  EVER!!

 

End of rant!!


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Posted January 29, 2014 - 12:01 PM

Tell us how you really feel  :poke: ..... I feel your pain.. only mine is of the 12 volt variety I hate those bullit connectors for they always rust and corrode. Why do they sell have the junk they sell.. ohh cause people are to lazy to fix it right.. Once those connectors fail they take it to a shop then they wonder why they get charged more then the quote from the first fix. ... Dodge is bad for this.. The rear main harness plug is right behind the front left tire on their trucks.. right in the splash zone.. right in the rock hitting it zone.. To top it off they don't even wrap it for protection.. Thanks dodge..  One more... well.. they have a tie rod recall.. yaa some good that is.. Three months to get in to get it fixed, Good job again Dodge. They recommend NOT driving the truck.. uhh.. how about a loaner or buy the pile of crap back.. jack wads... 


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Posted January 29, 2014 - 12:03 PM

The easier they make it for new guys the worse it gets to use.


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Posted January 29, 2014 - 12:38 PM

I don't like that at all. I don't like when electricians use those outlet that have push in holes for wires. its not enough contact surface. Over time wires loosen up and cause problems.
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Posted January 29, 2014 - 12:47 PM

I don't like that at all. I don't like when electricians use those outlet that have push in holes for wires. its not enough contact surface. Over time wires loosen up and cause problems.

You mean like ever damn socket in this mobile home I live in. I have 4 that need replacing now. The whole problem is the wire is loose.


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Posted January 29, 2014 - 01:06 PM

TERMINAL BLOCK PLUGGABLE, 4POS, 18-12AW

^ Note: it does say POS in the name of it.

Edited by Jack, January 29, 2014 - 01:07 PM.

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Posted January 29, 2014 - 01:13 PM

TERMINAL BLOCK PLUGGABLE, 4POS, 18-12AW

^ Note: it does say POS in the name of it.

Truth in advertising


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Posted January 29, 2014 - 01:21 PM

I don't like that at all. I don't like when electricians use those outlet that have push in holes for wires. its not enough contact surface. Over time wires loosen up and cause problems.

I pulled  many of them off the 3 wires by hand..  Something wrong with that picture?  I don't know how anybody else feels, but My home is too valuable to trust to that device!   :shoot2:


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Posted January 29, 2014 - 01:51 PM

You mean like ever damn socket in this mobile home I live in. I have 4 that need replacing now. The whole problem is the wire is loose.

I like the outlets that have clamp on side. Those push in type should not be made not enough contact area just piece metal clamps wire.
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Posted January 29, 2014 - 02:35 PM

I like the outlets that have clamp on side. Those push in type should not be made not enough contact area just piece metal clamps wire.

 

I've never had any trouble with the push in kind of receptacle.  I used them all over my last house.  Really only because I bought like 50 of them in a box at a flea market for 10 bucks. 

 

I usually grab the type with the clamp out of habit.

 

I have however had bad luck with the extension cord ends that the wire shoves into and grips vs the screw down type.  The push in style all of them melted under heavy use with a circular saw or reciprocating saw.


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Posted January 29, 2014 - 02:54 PM

My friend had electrical issues at his house (dim lights dead receptacles) and we traced the wiring along one side of the house. It turned out to be the first receptacle from the circuit breaker. At one time someone had an air conditioner plugged in that was drawing more current than the receptacle was rated for and melted it and the box. Whoever did the wiring used those quick connect holes instead of making a good electrical connection under the provided screw terminals (dumss ass).


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Posted January 29, 2014 - 03:07 PM

I used to work for electrician. We never used them. Only side clamps. You should be able to use a small flat blade there is release the wire on the back of the outlet they have a small spring. Or we just cut them off. Most people have no concept of electric. Once saw a panel with a piece of dowl wedged against breaker. Homeowner said it kept tripping
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Posted January 29, 2014 - 03:09 PM

I always buy and use the type with the screws, takes a bit more to hook up but its done for good.


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Posted January 29, 2014 - 05:15 PM

if it's quicker and cheaper, you can guarantee they will use it.  it seems pride in product and workmanship has flown the coop for profit!

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Posted January 29, 2014 - 05:50 PM

I have been wiring homes for over thirty years & used them one time on a job. When I turned the light circuits on a third of the can lights didn't come on because of this junk. I have never used them again. I won't use the push pins on receptacles either...they will arc & trip a breaker.


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