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#1 68chevyguy OFFLINE  

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Posted January 09, 2014 - 07:01 PM

hey here are a few pics of the project I bought last week

its a 2012 simplicity that has seen better days but luckly it is all there

it has a 1973 16hp briggs on it, but it has a horrible knock.  Good thing is though the other day I bought a 12hp briggs off a 68 simplicity that runs like a top

the simplicity also needs the entire steering gear setup cause it is missing teeth

hopefully I will be able to find another, the bgb also has a little play in it but not aweful

so after I button up the big ten this will be my workhorse, I love the fact it looks just like my 707 I played on as a kid

also it came with a tiller, plow, yard vac, and a good mowing deck

here are a few pics

 

 

 

 

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I love these little tractors, Its like working on my camaros and chevelles just way cheaper and less parts lol


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Posted January 09, 2014 - 07:08 PM

Looks like a nice GT to fix up and work.

Thanks for the photos, and it does look like it's cousin the Allis.


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Posted January 09, 2014 - 07:33 PM

I have 2012 in the shop now. If you decide to part with the tiller I might be interested.

good score.
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Posted January 09, 2014 - 08:01 PM

You got a good old tractor


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Posted January 10, 2014 - 05:31 AM

The 2012 was a great model....the only 3 speed 12 horse, and a 1 year tractor. They are fairly scarce. The one you have is in great shape, cosmetically. Fix the mechanicals and straighten the fenders and you have yourself a great lookin survivor!
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Posted January 10, 2014 - 06:22 AM

Nice score they are cool GTs own a 64 landlord and a 67 101 myself
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Posted January 12, 2014 - 12:10 AM

I love these old simplicitys

I was able to pull the 73 16hp briggs off and got the steering gears out

and wow they are a mess

I wonder why all of them I have are welded to the pitman arm?

heres a few pics

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Posted January 15, 2014 - 05:33 PM

hey does anyone know how big a rear tire this GT can handle?

also are these tractors bad about messing up the steering gears, and if so why?

I shall part out my 64 landlord I just got to fix this and my big ten


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Posted January 15, 2014 - 05:41 PM

also ordered a set of deestone 23x10.5-12s for this tractor since its the 12hp version and I will use it for everything

anyone have any pics of these tires on any simplicity or allis tractors?

I just couldnt find a better deal for tires to my door, they ran 145 shipped for 2


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Posted January 16, 2014 - 08:45 PM

just got the deestone tires in today and they look awesome!!!!!!!!

I thought I would do so measurements to ensure people of the actual size of these tires

 

note they are deestone 23x10.5-12 4ply

 

Uninflated!!!!!!!

The measure in as 21in tall and 9in wide

they were $142 shipped to my door

They have very nice lugs

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the original turf tires come in at 21ins tall with 7in wide

23x8.5-12


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Posted January 17, 2014 - 12:59 PM

I love these old simplicitys

I was able to pull the 73 16hp briggs off and got the steering gears out

and wow they are a mess

I wonder why all of them I have are welded to the pitman arm?

heres a few pics

 

Most folks never bothered to lubricate the gears, and all too often, the nut on that arm assembly loosened, creating slack and further wear.  Internally, the eccentric pin and the brass bushing it resides in (no grease serk, from the factory) wore considerably over time, creating slack on the other side of the assembly.  They missed the mark on designing that steering setup, IMO.  The earlier steering, from say, an early B-10, holds up much better, but the ratio is higher (great for a loader or blower)


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Posted January 17, 2014 - 05:20 PM

hey mrgreen do you happen to know if all the parts will swap out of the parts 64 landlord I got?

I will try to get it saturday, and might get another 16hp briggs

 

also I have a few pics of the tires mounted and primed

so pumped up they are about 8.5 or so wide with a height of 22.5ins

some pics!!!!

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look how little space there is from the seat pan!!!!

so far I like them and its made of very nice rubber!!!!!! I will use them again


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Posted January 19, 2014 - 01:07 AM

Ok I just got the steering back together on the 2012 note that you have to change the steering shaft if you use the old style steering gears

I like them way better there is just so much more contact area between the gears and they are made so nice, not sure why they changed it so it would fail?

I got the 64 landlord home and I just pulled it all out of it, and I was quite sad that when I picked it up the small gear was locked up, But I tore it to pieces and cleaned the shaft and it works great.

It was as easy as just putting them in and changing the steering rod, then I serviced the joints

 

so whats due for tomorrow is paint the 12 semi gloss black and put it on

I have already had it running and serviced the ignition and the carb and it runs like a top

then get the correct size belt for the tiller and break it in

 

also notice I left the wheels primed because I will paint both the front and rear wheels and the grill when it warms up with nice urathane white



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Posted January 19, 2014 - 07:35 AM

Finally got a chance to catch up on this. The tires look great. My son has a set of those on his massey and they have served him well.
Did you get anywhere with the steering gears yet?

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Posted January 19, 2014 - 11:16 AM

yeap got done last night at 1am or so, all thats left is paint the good 12 and put it in

it was a straight forward swap, just use the puller to get the steering wheel off and the steering arm

 

I will have it running again today!!!!







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