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#16 OkieGt OFFLINE  

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Posted January 07, 2014 - 02:56 PM

The 916 should be a hydraulic lift, the 716 was electric. You remove the lift handle and there is a hole that connects a rod from where the lift rod was that goes to lift the blade, another rod comes back to the seat that you are able to turn 45 degrees and push or pull and it has five angle positions left or right to lock the blade into that angle. Under the tractor you mount an electric actuator in the holes provided, the actuator pins to the rockshaft from there, If you look you might have a tab off the lifting rockshaft wit a place to pinn your actuator. If you can dream it up it, it has probably already been invented, designed, patented, marketed, and sold



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Posted January 07, 2014 - 03:09 PM

The 916H has a toggle on the dash that says electric impliment lift below it, but of course the cylinder isn't under the tractor.


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Posted January 07, 2014 - 04:47 PM

The 916H has a toggle on the dash that says electric impliment lift below it, but of course the cylinder isn't under the tractor.

Are you sure its a 916H? every one  have everseen has had a hydraulic lift handle on the left side that lower and raised BOTH front and rear implements, in fact every Allis garden tractor I have seen the rockshaft is able to lift either elecricaly or hydraulically. The factory electric lift for a 716/916 is about 150 with all the parts, the factory hydraulic lift for a 900 series is about 200.00, maybe less



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Posted January 07, 2014 - 04:49 PM

Yep, its a 916H I also have a 716H but that one is missing everything for the rear lift. :wallbanging:


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Posted January 07, 2014 - 04:51 PM

Yep, its a 916H I also have a 716H but that one is missing everything for the rear lift. :wallbanging:

This one will fit either tractor without the use of the rockshaft in the picture, might score the whole kit for 175.00

 

http://www.ebay.com/...=item20ddb5acb6



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Posted January 07, 2014 - 04:54 PM

Now that would work.

 

Still in the dark how it lifts the front attachment from the rockshaft.  None of mine have anything going forward from the rockshaft.


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Posted January 07, 2014 - 04:56 PM

Now that would work.

 

Still in the dark how it lifts the front attachment from the rockshaft.  None of mine have anything going forward from the rockshaft.

Do you want me to send daigrams showing how it works? Do you have manuals?



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Posted January 07, 2014 - 04:57 PM

I don't have anything showing the front lift stuff for either one, if you have it I would appreciate it. :thumbs:


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Posted January 07, 2014 - 05:25 PM

I don't have anything showing the front lift stuff for either one, if you have it I would appreciate it. :thumbs:

There's two videos on my you tube channel showing the front blade set up. The angle adjustment works by turning the handle and pushing left or right, real easy. There also manuals on the site

 

http://www.youtube.c...aUn-wVx4aaFdUYA



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Posted January 07, 2014 - 05:29 PM

There are plenty of OEM lifts out there.

I would recommend waiting for one to come up for sale.

Your most likely going to have more Money & time invested fabricating something.

You know, I've seen you post the same elsewhere on this board, but for the life of me I cannot find one of these things. Frankly, I'm not even 100% sure what, exactly, I need. I presume a pump, valve, and actuator. Am I missing anything? How big of a risk would I be taking to buy these components piecemeal from eBay? I truly have yet to see a kit that's complete* for sale. 

 

*Again, I can't say that I know fully what a 'complete' kit entails. 

 

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Posted January 07, 2014 - 05:34 PM

This thread should help you out:

 

http://gardentractor... hydraulic lift

 

Basically all you need is the Motor Mounts, Mount to the rear trans cover, Cylinder and Pump assembly



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Posted January 07, 2014 - 06:00 PM

sorry about hijacking (sort of) the thread, Victor, email me or PM me for more about the Allis lifts


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Posted January 07, 2014 - 06:25 PM

sorry about hijacking (sort of) the thread, Victor, email me or PM me for more about the Allis lifts

No worries. I was about to give you one of these  :hijacked:  anyways.  :thumbs:


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Posted January 07, 2014 - 06:54 PM

No worries. I was about to give you one of these  :hijacked:  anyways.  :thumbs:

I read and reread your last post and for the life of me couldn't figure out what the heck you were talking about, until I went back and figured out I had hijacked the thread and had a case of amenisia.  :loosing_it:



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Posted January 08, 2014 - 09:40 AM

Sorry guys for Hijacking the tread.

 

Brian, I looked at your link (pictures anyway) that setup looks pretty darn close to the one I picked up for my Allis B-110, main differance is that the b-110 one is tucked up under the side cowl on the other side.  I would really like to find one of those big pully's to put on the front of my K341 Kohler to belt drive something like this.


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