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#16 OkieGt OFFLINE  

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Posted January 03, 2014 - 04:46 PM

The Wheel Horse D-250 is a true SGT.

Engine- Renault 19.9hp 4 cylinder liquid cooled rated at 3000RPM

1,500RPM Front and Mid PTO- 1,000RPM Rear PTO

Wieght-1,260lbs

Trans, 4 forward 1 reverse with High/Low Range and Differential Lock

Automotive style Clutch and Individual Turning Brakes

 

The is was only rated at 19.9HP for some rule used in tractor ratings, in other uses the same engine is rated a just over 30HP.

 

 

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I would say the Superest of Super Garden Tractors


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Posted January 03, 2014 - 04:50 PM

I think of my Legacy (though a bit of a later model) as a SGT.  They market the current XL model oddly, as a "Subcompact Garden Tractor" (wouldn't that mean, smaller than a 'Garden Tractor'??), but I don't feel it stacks up to the implied SCUT badge. 

 

It is, however, an amazingly strong perfomring 'Super' garden tractor, IMO.  Fits your criteria to a 'T'.  Like the JD mentioned above, it offered optional 3pt and PTO, had a diesel model available, standard power steering and diff lock, auxillary hydraulics, hangs in there with a 55" wheelbase, tips the scales at right around 1000# (depends on engine and options).  It will handle a wide variety of proprietary and CAT0 or Limited CAT1 attachments.  But, it is simply is not beefy enough to properly operate larger Cat1 attachments, work with more than 600# in the bucket, 450# on the 3pt, or power hydraulic motor implements.  I have a 60" flail mower I play with, and while it will do it, it is clear it only wants to play for a little while.  I wouldn't want to be asking SCUT performance of that tractor....it does stand a head above my beefiest Garden Tractor though.

 

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I think the U in SCUT refers to "utility", meaning more of a small 

Ford, Massey, IH style of utility tractor


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Posted January 03, 2014 - 06:17 PM

Wow, I would like to put them all down but I was just listing a few that started the category, but if you have any of the specs and a picture feel free to add them to the word doc. it wouldn't hurt my feelings at all.  I would enjoy seeing more specs..


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Posted January 03, 2014 - 08:37 PM

I think the U in SCUT refers to "utility", meaning more of a small Ford, Massey, IH style of utility tractor


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Posted January 03, 2014 - 09:50 PM

I can add some detail for my Kubota but I don't have any of the others.


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Posted January 03, 2014 - 10:04 PM

yup, I can view it but I have to pay 8.99 to join to download it... thanks anyway. I might do it just for a month then cancel.

 

Thanks again.

CC&P it, Are you talking about adobe acrobat?



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Posted January 04, 2014 - 12:20 AM

CC&P it, Are you talking about adobe acrobat?

umm... never mind that post. That was suppose to be in a different thread. I edited that post with the text I intended for this thread.


Edited by twostep, January 04, 2014 - 12:33 AM.

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Posted January 04, 2014 - 12:29 AM

umm... never mind that post. That was suppose to be in a thread. I edited that post with the text I intended for this thread.

 

Thanks Bobby, the other text in that post didn't make any sense to me.



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Posted January 04, 2014 - 12:39 AM

With Bolens, I would say that the 1886, HT18, HT20, HT20D, HT22, HT23 and HDT1000 would all qualify as SGTs.

 

They are all powered by multi cylinder engines varying from 18 to 23 Hp, have a 3-pt hitch available, are capable of pulling a 12" plow and other round engaging implements, and had both a FEL and Backhoe as available attachments.

 

I would hesitate to call them SCUTs, but they were creeping into SCUT territory.

I agree!!  I love my HT 23--only thing I need to improve it is power steering and a cab!!  (Oh and a regular 3 pt hitch--just has the tiller hitch right now)

 

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Posted January 04, 2014 - 12:48 AM

Here's another Super Garden Tractor that isn't very common-- a Dayton 3Z678B:

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Engine: 18 hp Briggs & Stratton twin

Transmission: Hydro static

Hydraulics: Power mower deck lift; Class "0" 3-point hitch

Front and Mid PTO

Tires:

 Front: 18-10.00-18

 Rear: 27-8.50-15

 

Essentially a rebadged MTD 995

 

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Posted January 04, 2014 - 12:50 AM

No one's mentioned the Case 446 and 448--powered by Onan B43 and B48 respectively.  They aren't shaft drive due to their being hydraulically driven, but the did have optional hydraulic 3-point hitches, rear hydraulics, hydraulic deck lift, etc.

 

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Posted January 04, 2014 - 01:33 PM

I put the Dayton and the D 250 on the list and thanks for putting it in the format.  If you could get ant more specs like weight, length, heigth, width, and fuel capacity that would be great.  I have my eye on a Turf Trac a rebadged MTD 995 that is not in running condition, but it looks to be all there.

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Posted January 05, 2014 - 01:27 PM

Add the legacy as well, that is definitely an impressive machine.

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Posted January 05, 2014 - 03:49 PM

Well, how about the MTD 990's?  Seems to fit the description.

 

Depending upon the year, 14, 15, or 16hp, shaft drive, with hydrostatic transmission, mid-PTO, and 3-point on the rear.  Rear tires were 27-9.50x15.

 

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Posted January 05, 2014 - 04:11 PM

Well, how about the MTD 990's?  Seems to fit the description.

 

Depending upon the year, 14, 15, or 16hp, shaft drive, with hydrostatic transmission, mid-PTO, and 3-point on the rear.  Rear tires were 27-9.50x15.

 

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I don't think the 990/995s would qualify any more than the 444/448s or the Massey 1650s, because of front wheel size, weight, and size






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