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#1 adolmsted OFFLINE  

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Posted December 20, 2013 - 10:28 PM

Howdy folks, just picked up very nice 317 with a very blown kt17 series one engine. Looking for some advice. My initial thoughts are to try to obtain a series 2
II case and crank and go from there. The engine had less than an hour on a partial rebuild, so there are a lot of good parts.
I currently have a jd214 that is my workhorse complete with snowblower, tiller and bagger. I just retired from the navy last year and picked it up to take care of my property.

I will post some pictures when I get to my PC.

Thanks in advance guys, I look forward to being an active part of GT talk.
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Posted December 20, 2013 - 11:59 PM

Andy, Welcome to GTtalk. Glad to see you made it here. Have you had you chance to see what happened to the engine?



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Posted December 21, 2013 - 12:41 AM

HI.  Let us know what you end up doing.  I have a line on a 317 that does not run.  I'd like to read along see what options are out there..

 

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Posted December 21, 2013 - 02:41 AM

Hi Andy and welcome to GTT  ildeere.gif

 

Here you can get some infos for the KT17, maybe they'll help you  Attached File  JD317-KT17.pdf   4.96MB   28 downloads


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Posted December 21, 2013 - 05:41 AM

Welcome to the forum, Andy! If you need help on the pics, look at the link below!


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Posted December 21, 2013 - 06:31 AM

Welcome to the forum Andy! Glad you have come on board!
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Posted December 21, 2013 - 07:29 AM

Welcome Andy. I have a 317 with a series 1. Because the 317 uses a drive shaft and u joints it should be possible to re power with a newer engine. Most people seem to use the Vanguard twins and there are some rebuild kits out there. Pricey though. My series 1 runs pretty good but is a bit noisy at idle. I think some of the cub cadets used the KT17 as well. There is a topic here outlining the differences between Series 1 and 2 engines. http://gardentractor...-and-2-engines/


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Posted December 21, 2013 - 08:06 AM

welcome and thank you for your service. hope you enjoy GTT


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Posted December 21, 2013 - 11:49 AM

If I was you , I'd try to find a good used Mag 18 or 20 . There almost identical to the KT17's , wont require any tractor modifications to mount , and have a pressurized oil system with filter .

Plus there still a lot of good used Magnums out there .  

And cub cadet did use both the KT 17 series I and II and the later Magnum series .

 

 

Edit : The magnums use a mag ignition instead of a coil ignition , so the wiring is slightly different .


Edited by Jlaws, December 21, 2013 - 01:06 PM.

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Posted December 23, 2013 - 11:27 AM

Thanks for the replies guys!

 

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So first look shows a hole in the right-hand side of case. Inside I can see the rod cap from the right-hand rod laying in the oil. 


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Posted December 23, 2013 - 11:29 AM

If I was you , I'd try to find a good used Mag 18 or 20 . There almost identical to the KT17's , wont require any tractor modifications to mount , and have a pressurized oil system with filter .

Plus there still a lot of good used Magnums out there .  

And cub cadet did use both the KT 17 series I and II and the later Magnum series .

 

 

Edit : The magnums use a mag ignition instead of a coil ignition , so the wiring is slightly different .

I had wondered about these, since they appear so similar in construction. I'll start looking out for them



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Posted December 23, 2013 - 11:57 AM

Thanks for the replies guys!

 

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So first look shows a hole in the right-hand side of case. Inside I can see the rod cap from the right-hand rod laying in the oil. 

That's nasty. I think that is the fate of a lot of those engines.



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Posted January 18, 2014 - 08:51 PM

Ok, So here is where i am with this. I pulled the series I and stripped it down. the case, one piston, one jug, one rod and the crank are toast. Contributing to this was the fact that the Cam is from a series two.

 

Options

1. KT17 

2. KT17 Series II

3. M18

4. M20

5. K series single

6. Onan

7. Repower 

 

Right now I am leaning toward the series II, unless I find a good deal on an M18 or M20

 

I have a case for a series two, but need a rod, piston, crank and oil pressure relief



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Posted January 25, 2014 - 09:14 PM

I would go with the m18/20 or a repower if it were my machine.  Good luck in the hunt.


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Posted February 11, 2014 - 06:36 PM

At this point I am going to go ahead with the Series II rebuild. I have been slowly gathering parts while looking for a good magnum. Update to follow soon.


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