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#1 JD DANNELS OFFLINE  

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Posted December 16, 2013 - 07:38 PM

Had not run theFord for a couple weeks, So I went down to the shed yesterday and was going to put a charger on the battery. charger was off so I put the ground clamp on and then when I put the positive on It arced pretty strongly. I switched on the charger and it kicked out the overide.

My suspicion is the battery froze shorted out the plates internally and needs replaced? what is your take?

Edited by JD DANNELS, December 16, 2013 - 07:39 PM.

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Posted December 16, 2013 - 07:46 PM

Was it frozen when you tried to charge it? The last time I went to charge a frozen battery it exploded.


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Posted December 16, 2013 - 08:27 PM

I would say - time to replace the battery

 

how old is the battery?

is you battery close to the motor?

have you ever checked the fluid in the battery?

 

sometime the heat for the motor  evaporates the fluid from the battery if it is to close

 

I have a battery that is around 9 years old in my JD 110  nd have to put fluid in the battery several times.


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Posted December 16, 2013 - 08:30 PM

The battery would need to be completely thawed and then a trickle charge applied to re-establish the normal action . Unfortunately water separates under these conditions and becomes conductive in destructive ways . It can be done but caution is the word along with goggles and gloves .
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Posted December 16, 2013 - 10:36 PM

I would say - time to replace the battery
 
how old is the battery?
is you battery close to the motor?
have you ever checked the fluid in the battery?
 
sometime the heat for the motor  evaporates the fluid from the battery if it is to close
 
I have a battery that is around 9 years old in my JD 110  nd have to put fluid in the battery several times.

I do not know how old the battery is? It was in the tractor when I bought it a year ago in September.
The battery sits in front of the radiator, It is a sealed unit so I can not check the water.

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Posted December 16, 2013 - 11:15 PM

Is your charger ok? I would not think it would close circuit until turned on. You said it was off when it sparked hooking up cables.



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Posted December 16, 2013 - 11:15 PM

I gotta say that I failed power supplies 101 on this one . If your charger was off and it drew a spark on connection it should be of short duration to chrge an internal capacitor . When the charger was turned on and blew the internal breaker , that indicates charger diode or transfomer defect. Try another charger .


Same as before - goggles and gloves , batteries being what they are .
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Posted December 17, 2013 - 09:14 AM

The charger is probably about 10yrs old and has always been a good one. The battery held a charge good until this winter.

We have had more single digit nights so far this year than we had all winter last year. When I started the tractor the week of Thanksgiving it was 14 degrees and that was the coldest I had ever tried to start it.



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Posted December 21, 2013 - 03:27 PM

still not sure if it was froze or not? But I just put a new battery rated at 700 cranking amps at 0 degrees in.
So I think Im ready for the snow coming tonight and in the morning.

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Posted December 21, 2013 - 03:43 PM

Good luck, JD!



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Posted January 25, 2014 - 05:56 PM

Ive blown up a battery or 2 that was frozen (that I didn't know was frozen at the time)  kinda like the frozen turkey in hot oil fryer thing...

 

One time at a former job I parked the shop truck outside at like 7:45Am, was sent on a run at like 2:30, no one had touched the truck since I'd parked it there  pulling vehicles out of th shop so we could open up,  when I went to start it to make that tire delivery I heard a "pop" under the hood, the battery had exploded, and that was without ever having been hooked up to a charger or a set of jumper cables... all it took was almost 7 hours of being pulled out of a 60* shop and parked in outside temps in the single digits






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