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#1 nbent OFFLINE  

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Posted December 13, 2013 - 03:11 PM

a while ago i bought a jd 317 with a loader on it with an engine that had a cracked block. i replaced the engine and the drive shaft to the hydro, but now my delema is i have to remount the pump that runs the loader. it had a love joy going between the crank off the engine and the pump before, but it wasn't aligned straight and wore part of it plus the plate the pump was bolted to doesn't line up with the crank anymore. what do you guys suggest to get the pump mounted, redo the plate it was on before or go with a whole new setup

 

this show where the pump was mounted before DSC00614.JPG

 

this shows the plate it was mounted to DSC00622.JPG


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Posted December 13, 2013 - 03:21 PM

If you want to go back to direct drive with a love-joy, then the pump mount needs to be mounted directly onto the engine.  Flex in the motor mounts & frame will not keep things aligned & the love-joy will eventually fail again.  What brand & model engine are you using?


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Posted December 13, 2013 - 07:11 PM

its a kohler k301 



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Posted December 13, 2013 - 07:17 PM

Don't K engines for deere's have that smaller oil pan and set lower in frame?  If you have standard large oil pan, then the crankshaft is up higher and won't align??   Case brand tractors all have the pump right on motor, using a special bracket that bolts to block holes and a Lovejoy on those. Wonder if you could use those parts?  They used the smaller K engines in lots of those.


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Posted December 13, 2013 - 07:35 PM

Yes, you could use the Case bracket, off a Case 222 or 224, BUT it would require cutting off the crankshaft to a shorter stub.  Their cranks are only say 1 1/4" long.  You may be able to find another bracket that would accommodate the stock crank length, but I'm not sure.


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Posted December 13, 2013 - 07:50 PM

PUMP MOUNTS HERE


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Posted December 13, 2013 - 07:52 PM

Surplus center has all kinds of pump brackets. You just need to figure out the one you need.
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Posted December 13, 2013 - 07:52 PM

The kohlers for case have a embossed ring that pump bracket lines up with


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Posted December 13, 2013 - 08:30 PM

Don't K engines for deere's have that smaller oil pan and set lower in frame? 

they do but this engine came out of i think a wheel horse so it has a flat pan.

 

http://gardentractor...-last-saturday/

here is the thread i started on the repower i need to update it and get more pics on it

 

thanks i didn't think about the cases pumps i picked up a 195 that has the motor out i will look at it tomorrow 



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Posted December 15, 2013 - 01:05 AM

the pump mount that is on the case motor would work with modification, so tomorrow im going to take it off and use it as a pattern to make one for the 317 thanks for the ideas guys


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Posted December 18, 2013 - 01:08 AM

well i started making the mount have it about half way finished or so i need to get a new love joy tomorrow to finish it and take pics 



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Posted December 18, 2013 - 09:35 PM

i finished it but no pics the camera was dead then the hydro end of the driveshaft came undone so i get to work on that tomorrow 



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Posted December 22, 2013 - 09:32 PM

well i have it all put back together but i now have a new problem the pump sits higher than the suction hose on the reservoir  

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Posted December 23, 2013 - 06:34 AM

Will the fluid in the reservoir be higher than the pump?



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Posted December 23, 2013 - 06:57 AM

On my PK the pump sits even higher then yours and it also uses the frame for the oil resvior , just have to keep it filled and vented too . If you do have a problem maybe a larger suction line might be needed






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