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Posted December 05, 2013 - 11:31 AM

Does it sound like " lul lul lul lul when cranking or lul lul yuwl lul lul ?? If the latter you have a possible stuck valve. Very common on these.

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Posted December 05, 2013 - 12:22 PM

It's a pretty consistant lugging sound. Every once in a while it sonds like starts spinning faster, then back to the same slower lugging sound.



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Posted December 05, 2013 - 06:50 PM

If I had a gauge..... :wallbanging:  :wallbanging:

  My apologies. Santa's coming soon, maybe he'll stop by HF and get you one. A VOM and comp tester are a must for engine diagnostics.

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Posted December 05, 2013 - 09:19 PM

  My apologies. Santa's coming soon, maybe he'll stop by HF and get you one. A VOM and comp tester are a must for engine diagnostics.

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I used to just borrow my GM mechanic neighbor's gauges along with many other tools, he moved last year :boo_hoo:



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Posted December 05, 2013 - 11:11 PM

Marty, Sorry to late on this, but I would bet money that the rings and maybe a valve is stuck, not allowing the engine to create enough vacuum to draw the fuel mixture into the engine. I would soak all 4 cylinders with MMO for a few days and then add a little gas to each cylinder to see if it hits.


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Posted December 06, 2013 - 07:24 AM

Getting  some kind of oil into the top end of the cylinders before proceding is your best bet at this time . Otherwise cracked piston rings could result .  Should have been a first . Good luck . 



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Posted December 06, 2013 - 09:57 AM

Thanks guys, I never thought of oiling rings, as many Small block chevys I've started after yrs of sitting, should've came to mind to soak pistons in oil beforehand.

When he said it ran I just quit using it, just rang in my mind clean carb and it should fire.

I'm hoping it's not a valve, I have no plans on going into this motor any deeper.

 

It will be this next week before I get back out there so maybe a while before I update again....the white death is almost upon us today!



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Posted December 06, 2013 - 01:46 PM

I would toss some ATF into the cylinders and let that go to work on the rings.  It is thinner than oil so it will work down into the rings.


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Posted December 10, 2013 - 09:57 AM

Got any further on this?



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Posted December 10, 2013 - 12:20 PM

Got any further on this?

 

Nope too much snow and I have been under the weather sick wise, no energy.

Thanks for asking!



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Posted December 11, 2013 - 07:22 AM

Sorry you aren't feeling well.
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Posted December 11, 2013 - 09:40 AM

Thanks....sinuses leading to drainage = sore throat. Plus I wrench my back somehow on Sunday or Monday, middle of my back is in knots right now and I hate this cold weather (2* F this morning) and 8"s of snow on the ground.

Ibuprofen and Mucinex :thumbs:


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Posted December 11, 2013 - 12:10 PM

Ibuprofen and Mucinex :thumbs:


Funny, in our youth, it was s, d, r & r... Now it's I, m, r & r (rest and recovery)
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Posted December 11, 2013 - 01:01 PM

Marty, hope you get feeling better my friend.  It's good you're trying to help out a neighbor, but sometimes ya gotta take care of yourself.  If the tractor is a bit too far gone, then cut the cord & release yourself from it.  



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Posted December 12, 2013 - 09:02 AM

Thanks....sinuses leading to drainage = sore throat. Plus I wrench my back somehow on Sunday or Monday, middle of my back is in knots right now and I hate this cold weather (2* F this morning) and 8"s of snow on the ground.

Ibuprofen and Mucinex :thumbs:

 

 

I had the exact same thing (sore throat) going on last week.  Finally back to normal and had a chance to work on my project.

 

Not much to add to your 8N problems, it sounds like the bases are covered already.  But I can sympathize...

I learned a lot of "vocabulary" from my dad because of our family's 8N when I was a kid!  :D It seemed to frequently have starting issues.






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