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#46 IamSherwood OFFLINE  

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Posted December 14, 2013 - 10:35 PM

Can you raise the tank up so that the bottom of the tank is the same level as the top of the engine?

This would give the airflow coming out of the engine a clear straight path out.

That would solve the heat problem as the airflow is high coming out from the cyl. head.

I'm gonna look at that in the morning. There is about an inch of space

above the tank at the front end. I'd be gaining maybe 40% of free air

flow back.


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Posted December 15, 2013 - 06:55 PM

I changed the angle of the tank today.

(note the marker lines on tank side=level in relation

to level frame)

 

Front of tank raised to maximum. Didn't leave room enough

for fill plug on top/front.

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As it sat yesterday.

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Dropped front a bit, and used die grinder to elongate mounting

holes. That opened it up a bit more for air flow.

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Finished welding mount, and heat shield nuts.

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Done with the tank for now.

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Posted December 15, 2013 - 07:10 PM

You gained a bit, try it and see how it works. :thumbs:


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Posted December 16, 2013 - 03:35 AM

Good deal. Should have better luck with that.
Oh, what did you decide for heat cloth? Nothing for now or waiting until its in hand?

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Posted December 16, 2013 - 07:40 AM

Looking good Will, you still waiting for the other parts?



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Posted December 16, 2013 - 07:43 AM

Good deal. Should have better luck with that.
Oh, what did you decide for heat cloth? Nothing for now or waiting until its in hand?

 

I decided to skip the heat cloth for now. I'm hoping the shield over

the exhaust pipe is enough to protect the oil, and I figured that

by putting heat cloth in there between the shield and tank, I

would be restricting the available engine cooling airflow.

We'll see how this works.


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Posted December 16, 2013 - 07:45 AM

Looking good Will, you still waiting for the other parts?

 

Yes, and UPS tracking isn't tracking it. I'll call them today.


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Posted December 18, 2013 - 09:50 PM

Hydraulic parts showed up, so I could do a mock up.

I think I've got it all fitting in, and buildable.

I'm going to have to order hoses made to length once I get

everything mounted.

 

Lines to cylinder, return line from pump, and bracket to hold

valve linkage and lever shaft.

 

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Brake linkage is going to have to be modified to get around

the fitting coming out of the pilot operated check valve. Pilot line into

check valve needs a 45 degree fitting, to get it away from the drive belt.

 

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Need to make mounting brackets for the cylinder, and make a new (longer)

slotted lift strap.

 

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I'm going to put a V Idler in to stop the drive belt from slapping against the pump

pulley. Yep, it's that close. Pump mount bracket with lever and shaft.

 

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Because the pump must sit exactly where it is, to accommodate the hyd lines/fittings

I have to put in a flat idler/tensioner.

 

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Suction line route.

 

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And need to lengthen the hub on the pump pulley by about 1 1/4". Roll pin

it to shaft.

 

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This should keep me busy for a few days. :D

Oh, also need to weld the NPT flanges to the tank, leak test, and fix if nesc.


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Posted December 18, 2013 - 11:05 PM

Will, I am sorry that I have missed this thread, but I have to say you are really going to have a nice Massey you get done. I like the fact that you adding hydraulics to it and hiding them is going to be sweet. Did those have a hydraulic option when they were built originally?


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Posted December 18, 2013 - 11:18 PM

Will, I am sorry that I have missed this thread, but I have to say you are really going to have a nice Massey you get done. I like the fact that you adding hydraulics to it and hiding them is going to be sweet. Did those have a hydraulic option when they were built originally?

 

No, it wasn't an option. Armstrong lift, and real awkward. You have to lean so far forward

to lift the sleeve hitch, you almost touch your nose on the steering wheel.

Yes, I'm trying real hard to hide everything. I hope I don't get in trouble with the tank

and heat. If so, I'll have to put it under the seat, but don't want to. Only other possibility

would be to move the coil and condenser, and stand up a smaller tank there. That

would make it tough to get at the carb. I don't like that.

Another option might be putting a tank under the frame, with a 12 volt pump to push the oil to the pump.

Would that even work?


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Posted December 18, 2013 - 11:33 PM

Will, I don't know if the tank will work below the pump, but you have to have the vent/fill well above the pump.


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Posted December 18, 2013 - 11:54 PM

IDK either. I'm just going to carry on, and hope for the best.


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Posted December 19, 2013 - 04:14 AM

Could any of your custom hoses have metal sections of pipe/tube in them to act as mini oil coolers as the oil flows around the circuit. obviously you still need plenty of flexi hose in there to allow for movement and vibration.


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Posted December 19, 2013 - 06:33 AM

Could any of your custom hoses have metal sections of pipe/tube in them to act as mini oil coolers as the oil flows around the circuit. obviously you still need plenty of flexi hose in there to allow for movement and vibration.

 

That's a possibility. I should look into a thermometer for the tank.


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Posted December 19, 2013 - 07:33 PM

Could you run the oil through a cooler on its way back to the tank?
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