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#16 DH1 ONLINE  

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Posted November 18, 2013 - 08:47 PM

There is an equation I'm sure but I've got no clue how to figure it out. If I had a 300 gallon water tank and 3/4" piping coming into my house how far in the air would the tank have to be too maintain 50psi of water pressure in the house?

 

This site has all kinds of info on getting off the Grid.

 

http://www.builditso...Water/Water.htm


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Posted November 18, 2013 - 08:56 PM

This site has all kinds of info on getting off the Grid.

 

http://www.builditso...Water/Water.htm

 

 

Thanks Doug, that is a good site..



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Posted November 19, 2013 - 12:32 AM

Just a question, but where are you? If the tank is up in the air and you get any amount of frost in the winter, insulation will be a consideration on the feed pipe to the house.
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Posted November 19, 2013 - 12:40 AM

I read this whole post and my head hurts from all that math.  

 

I hope your off the grid quest goes well.  


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Posted November 19, 2013 - 06:46 AM

The quest for energy independence has many options and you must look at your assets. Where is your source of water? What is your climate? You can use a hydraulic ram pump if you have a fast flowing stream, a windpump if you have plenty of wind, or a woodgasifire powered generator if you have plenty of wood. I am staying away from solarelectric panels because they are still too expensive for my area. Check out The Motherearth News Magazine, especially the older ones. Good Luck, Rick
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Posted November 19, 2013 - 07:19 AM

I'm in central Kentucky. I've been playing with geothermal to keep the tank from freezing. Same principle as our waters for the cattle. I was using 50psi as random number. 50' tower is still more than I really want to build.

It almost seems I should just pay my 17$ a month water bill. I've got a well pump(the 150yo hand dug well is 30' from my house) but I think the pump may cost more in electric than what I'm paying for water.

Mother earth news is good and I've read several of them. I may look at some 12v pumps and see what I can do with them.
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Posted November 19, 2013 - 07:44 AM

$17!!!

That is just about free in my book!  I'm paying about $35 for the water, then I pay another $35 for the "sewage treatment" and another $10 for "admin fees" !  


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Posted November 19, 2013 - 08:50 AM

I'm trying to get it to 10$ a month but haven't had much luck. I may be installing timers on the shower.
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Posted November 19, 2013 - 08:52 AM

My water was a little painfully expensive before I read this, now it hurts so much more. Between water, sewer, taxes and village fees I pay between $80 and $100 a month. I don't water my lawn or take care of livestock either! I'm gonna go cry in the corner for a while now...
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Posted November 19, 2013 - 09:04 AM

That's just my household of two. The cattle are on their own meter and drink 350$ a month. Remember I also have no sewage, village, or any other fees. Just water. Don't cry it will be ok.
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Posted November 19, 2013 - 10:04 AM

That's just my household of two. The cattle are on their own meter and drink 350$ a month. Remember I also have no sewage, village, or any other fees. Just water. Don't cry it will be ok.

Welll THERE's your problem!  Get those cattle drinking something more economical!  They should be drinking from the nearest mudhole.  And if all you want to do is water the cattle, no need for expensive water towers and pipe and all, just dig a catch basin and pump the water in there!



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Posted November 19, 2013 - 10:10 AM

I want to water me. The cattle are separate from me. I don't pay that bill.
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Posted November 19, 2013 - 10:13 AM

.  Fifty psi is asking for trouble on faucets, toilets and washing machine valve's and seals.

 

Really? Both my mom's well and mine are both set at 50 top end. I know they don't operate there, but still. I also have a friend who has a 40/60 regulator on their well, they never have any issues more than any other person.

 

I would take operating a well pump any day over city water. I can run it all day for pennies vs paying city water. Not to mention, they want close to $6K  to just dig a hole an install a meter, I would still have to pay plumber to run line to house and install there and pay monthly usage. No thank you! 

I really need to get the old hand pump useable   :smilewink:

 

 

You need some cheaper cows :rolling:  :rolling:


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Posted November 19, 2013 - 01:41 PM

My water bill runs between 8.50 and 14.00!  3 people in the house.  I don't use water for anything than toilets, bathing, cooking, washing dishes, and clothes.

 

Wash the cars a few times in the summer.  Use the pressure washer here and there.  But our water usage is probably below average for the american family.

 

Our biggest use is washing clothes.  I swear to bob that she washes 5 loads of clothes a day.  I dirty barely any its all her and little girl messing up the clothes.  I wear uniforms at work, and usually bum around a clean uniform at home then wear it the next day.  Work cleans them.

 

My and my ex wife spent 50-60 a month on water/sewage at the last house I had.

 

Our biggest bill is electric  150 to 200 in the summer.  Lowest bill was last month at 100.   Me and the ex wife averaged only 50 to 60 a month on electric, but no AC in the house.


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Posted November 19, 2013 - 02:34 PM

   Me and the ex wife averaged only 50 to 60 a month on electric, but no AC in the house.

 

Let me guess...... you 2 got divorced during a HOT summer!  :smilewink:


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