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Posted November 10, 2013 - 11:31 AM

I got this snow blade (917.254020) when I picked up Brian's (TD&H) BH's. Been studying it and came up with the idea of mounting it on the #2 FF20.
The mount is 3" too narrow, but I think I can make it work. The blade is 46" wide, just enough for a bit of wiggle room. What I hope to do is make an adapter to fit between the mounts using 1/4" plate and heavy wall 1" square tube. Biggest issue is getting the lift functioning properly.
Here's a few pics. Let me know if this looks somewhat correct, especially the lift brackets on the blade itself. I can adjust things now.
This blade was originally intended for the older GT16's.
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This shows where the lift bar comes out of the FF.
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Posted November 10, 2013 - 11:53 AM

Kenny, try mocking it up with a couple of pieces of 2 x 4 lumber. If it works but the fir is too soft, use some oak pieces. You can then take your time finding the right steel pieces. Chanel with a plate may work too. Good Luck, Rick


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Posted November 10, 2013 - 11:57 AM

Working on a project like this is nice when you have a welder and cutting torch as you have found out on other projects.

 My little saying:: when there is a will there is a way.

 

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Posted November 10, 2013 - 12:15 PM

Blades that mount are easy to find!.......Why not make a "receiver" that this blade slips into, JUST like the early tractors have. Make the receiver mount to tractor hanging off angle irons vertical on each side, like the orig one would and that way blade could stay usable for the early type Sears too and not be cobbled.  That receiver could be made from channel iron, or maybe big rectangular tubing. Brace that mount in back under tractor too, or even way back and off the rear hitch point like so many brands do.


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Posted November 10, 2013 - 12:49 PM

Blades that mount are easy to find!.......Why not make a "receiver" that this blade slips into, JUST like the early tractors have. Make the receiver mount to tractor hanging off angle irons vertical on each side, like the orig one would and that way blade could stay usable for the early type Sears too and not be cobbled.  That receiver could be made from channel iron, or maybe big rectangular tubing. Brace that mount in back under tractor too, or even way back and off the rear hitch point like so many brands do.

GL, anything I do to it will not affect what is there now other than a few extra drilled holes. I still want it to be usable for it's intended purpose. That's what makes it harder to figure the mounting, keeping the integrity of the existing mount.

Another option is to pull the 2 pins (closest to tractor) for the existing mount to tractor and make a new piece to fit the FF there. That may be the simplest solution as I can incorporate the lift into that.


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Posted November 10, 2013 - 05:19 PM

Kenny, this is the lift on my blade that was the crossover model. Designed for the early GT and (with adapter) the ST and earlier.
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Here is the release and twist handle
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Posted November 10, 2013 - 05:55 PM

Thanks, Alan. Here's a couple pics of what the FF 54" blade looks like (from the manual).

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Posted November 11, 2013 - 07:38 AM

I was hoping someone with a 54" blade (917.25410) would chime in as I need some dimensions from the end that mounts to the tractor. That would speed the process a lot. If I can clone that part to fit this blade mount/lift, it would be a simple change.



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Posted November 11, 2013 - 08:15 AM

Wish I could help Bud,
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Posted November 11, 2013 - 08:26 AM

I'll get it figured out, Alan! I did post a question over at yahoo FF forum. Maybe someone there can help with those dimensions.

My issue right now is to get the 2 pins out that hold the existing mount. One does move side-to-side some, but the other is still stuck. But I'll get them loose and out of there without destroying anything.



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Posted November 12, 2013 - 12:32 PM

Got the 2 pins out. Now I can see what I need to do to make a new mounting bracket to fit the FF.


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Posted November 12, 2013 - 07:32 PM

I've been playing on Sketchup. I think this is what I am going to need to build.

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The Red pins are what attaches it to the blade where I took the other piece off. The Blue & Yellow is for the lift. The White pins are what attaches it to the tractor mount.


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Posted November 12, 2013 - 07:37 PM

Kenny,    If it would help, you can send the tractor and blade up here to me.  I'll fab the mounting  plate and give it a good test over the winter and return it to you next spring. :D  :D  :D   Rick


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Posted November 12, 2013 - 07:46 PM

Now I've got 2 of you after my FF's! DANG! Gonna have to park them in with the Rot's.


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Posted November 13, 2013 - 03:56 PM

Got pics for you all! I got the side plates drilled today. I cut them to size, clamped them together, & tack welded them together so the holes all came out right. Once drilled, I cut the tacks off and deburred things. I then put the 2 side plates onto the blade mechanism and tacked a separator tube between. With that done, I mounted that back to the blade and attached it to the tractor.

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Now to figure out the lift part of the equation. The lift bar says I have 2.75" of travel. I'll put that into DeltaCad and see what I come up with.


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