Jump to content

Time to vote for Tractor of the Month!
Garden Tractors and Parts on eBay



Photo
* * * * * 3 votes

Lgt 165 Repower **Updated with crawler conversion**


  • Please log in to reply
371 replies to this topic

#316 propane1 ONLINE  

propane1
  • Senior Member
  • Member No: 54307
  • 7,072 Thanks
  • 3,564 posts
  • Location: Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, Canada

Posted December 16, 2015 - 11:36 AM

Bang!!!

Two snow storms so far, ford broke down in each one. !!!
Found universal getting bad on the drive shaft for the blower, Soooo, I thought, I'll fix that before it breaks, new joint in, now have bad vibration. Vibrated the bolt out holding the yoke onto the gear box shaft, and both springs for the belt idler came of. !!!!!
Makes me wonder some times. ???

Noel

Attached Thumbnails

  • image.jpg
  • image.jpg

Edited by propane1, December 16, 2015 - 11:42 AM.

  • Chopperhed said thank you

#317 propane1 ONLINE  

propane1
  • Senior Member
  • Member No: 54307
  • 7,072 Thanks
  • 3,564 posts
  • Location: Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, Canada

Posted December 16, 2015 - 11:39 AM

Nice job on the fill pipe, and can hardly wait to see the bull dozer in action.

Noel
  • Chopperhed said thank you

#318 Chopperhed OFFLINE  

Chopperhed
  • Senior Member
  • Member No: 20120
  • 1,852 Thanks
  • 1,071 posts
  • Location: Edmonton, Ab, Canada

Posted December 16, 2015 - 01:10 PM

Bang!!!

Two snow storms so far, ford broke down in each one. !!!
Found universal getting bad on the drive shaft for the blower, Soooo, I thought, I'll fix that before it breaks, new joint in, now have bad vibration. Vibrated the bolt out holding the yoke onto the gear box shaft, and both springs for the belt idler came of. !!!!!
Makes me wonder some times. ???

Noel

Any idea what's causing the vibration?


  • propane1 said thank you

#319 skyrydr2 ONLINE  

skyrydr2

    Tractorholic

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 5032
  • 3,693 Thanks
  • 3,318 posts
  • Location: Gardner, Massachusetts!

Posted December 16, 2015 - 01:12 PM

Noel, the yokes didn't get out of alignment could they? I made that mistake only once.... Man did that shaft shake!! Shaft was square, so it could go back in 4 different orientations ...
  • Chopperhed and propane1 have said thanks

#320 propane1 ONLINE  

propane1
  • Senior Member
  • Member No: 54307
  • 7,072 Thanks
  • 3,564 posts
  • Location: Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, Canada

Posted December 16, 2015 - 01:38 PM

Keith, Shaft is rectangular , so only can go two ways, which keeps the joints timed.

Noel
  • Chopperhed said thank you

#321 propane1 ONLINE  

propane1
  • Senior Member
  • Member No: 54307
  • 7,072 Thanks
  • 3,564 posts
  • Location: Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, Canada

Posted December 16, 2015 - 01:45 PM

Chopperhed, not sure, but the yoke hole and gear box shaft are egg shaped a bit. But it was always like that. Now that the joint is tight, maybe it's vibrating at the yoke and shaft. ???

Noel
  • Chopperhed said thank you

#322 Chopperhed OFFLINE  

Chopperhed
  • Senior Member
  • Member No: 20120
  • 1,852 Thanks
  • 1,071 posts
  • Location: Edmonton, Ab, Canada

Posted December 16, 2015 - 04:55 PM

It might be off to the wrong side of the oval. That could cause it. can you rotate 180, or is it a keyed shaft

Edited by Chopperhed, December 16, 2015 - 04:59 PM.

  • propane1 said thank you

#323 propane1 ONLINE  

propane1
  • Senior Member
  • Member No: 54307
  • 7,072 Thanks
  • 3,564 posts
  • Location: Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, Canada

Posted December 16, 2015 - 05:25 PM

Not keyed. I am going to drill a new hole in the yoke for the bolt to go thru. And will rotate 90 degrees. This will not affect the yoke timing. Because the sliding part of the drive shaft is rectangular, it can't be put out of time to the joints. Going to do more tomorrow. Will let you know what happens.

Noel
  • Chopperhed said thank you

#324 propane1 ONLINE  

propane1
  • Senior Member
  • Member No: 54307
  • 7,072 Thanks
  • 3,564 posts
  • Location: Charlottetown, Prince Edward Island, Canada

Posted December 17, 2015 - 03:26 PM

All fixed up, no more vibration. Also fixed up belt idler. Put new belt on. Moving the yoke farther on to the shaft, tightened it up good. Turned the yoke 90 degrees and drilled new hole. New hole is the one which is closer to the universal end. This allowed me to side it on to where I wanted it and used the original hole in the shaft. Nice and tight now, took all the wobble out. So, on to the next break down, but no snow coming for the next week or so.

Noel

Attached Thumbnails

  • image.jpg
  • image.jpg
  • image.jpg
  • image.jpg
  • image.jpg
  • image.jpg
  • image.jpg
  • image.jpg

  • Gtractor, MH81, Alc and 3 others have said thanks

#325 Chopperhed OFFLINE  

Chopperhed
  • Senior Member
  • Member No: 20120
  • 1,852 Thanks
  • 1,071 posts
  • Location: Edmonton, Ab, Canada

Posted December 17, 2015 - 10:13 PM

All fixed up, no more vibration. Also fixed up belt idler. Put new belt on. Moving the yoke farther on to the shaft, tightened it up good. Turned the yoke 90 degrees and drilled new hole. New hole is the one which is closer to the universal end. This allowed me to side it on to where I wanted it and used the original hole in the shaft. Nice and tight now, took all the wobble out. So, on to the next break down, but no snow coming for the next week or so.

Noel


I hope the solution works. Old equipment can often lead to innovative solutions to keep it running.
  • propane1 said thank you

#326 skyrydr2 ONLINE  

skyrydr2

    Tractorholic

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 5032
  • 3,693 Thanks
  • 3,318 posts
  • Location: Gardner, Massachusetts!

Posted December 18, 2015 - 06:10 AM

Nice fix Joel! That should keep it happy for a while.
I am sure glad I did not find an oem Snowthrower for my LGTs! What I have now is WAY easier to install and maintain. ;-)
  • propane1 said thank you

#327 shorty ONLINE  

shorty

    Member

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 6172
  • 4,327 Thanks
  • 4,496 posts
  • Location: Lancaster County Pa

Posted December 18, 2015 - 06:27 AM

With a bit of ingenuity, it's amazing how long you can go without new parts.
  • MH81, Chopperhed and propane1 have said thanks

#328 Chopperhed OFFLINE  

Chopperhed
  • Senior Member
  • Member No: 20120
  • 1,852 Thanks
  • 1,071 posts
  • Location: Edmonton, Ab, Canada

Posted December 25, 2015 - 05:20 PM

With a bit of ingenuity, it's amazing how long you can go without new parts.


I hope so. After building the unit, and then tearing it down to replace the transaxle, I got it all put together, and tested the new setup.

Everything worked as expected. Forward reverse left right, and no noticeable whine.
I left it parked with the ripper in the up position to test the system.

After about a week I found a puddle, the rear lift cylinder and/or its related system need immediate service.
I'm betting it's the rod seal on the cylinder.
I'm not happy about that.
It means either tearing it down far enough to get the lift cylinder out, rebuild it, and put it back in. OR,
bypass it, buy another 100 dollar cylinder, plus hoses, and use the valve to run a directly mounted cylinder, making the original rear lift extra weight.

Plan C, involves leaving it the way it is since it won't leak until I use the rear lift. I can still push anything I need, and could still rip, so long as I keep an eye on the levels.

the B*tch is, oil costs money, and causes damage when it leaks into the dirt.

Hairy Fishnuts

Edited by Chopperhed, December 25, 2015 - 09:56 PM.

  • Alc, wvbuzzmaster, KennyP and 2 others have said thanks

#329 skyrydr2 ONLINE  

skyrydr2

    Tractorholic

  • Senior Member
  • -GTt Supporter-
  • Contributor
  • Member No: 5032
  • 3,693 Thanks
  • 3,318 posts
  • Location: Gardner, Massachusetts!

Posted December 26, 2015 - 03:13 PM

Chopper, I tore apart my parts axle and got a real good look at the differential, did you take yours apart? If not.... Your not going to be happy ...they do not have a single bearing,bushing or anything for that matter except a nice fit around the gears, no pins to go bad only the gears to themselves and the housing!! Yup totAl friction makes them a limited slip, the harder you force them the harder they bind them selves against the housing bores.... Best keep a really good synthetic oil in yours if you want to turn when it gets hot.

Edited by skyrydr2, December 26, 2015 - 03:15 PM.

  • KennyP said thank you

#330 Chopperhed OFFLINE  

Chopperhed
  • Senior Member
  • Member No: 20120
  • 1,852 Thanks
  • 1,071 posts
  • Location: Edmonton, Ab, Canada

Posted December 26, 2015 - 04:00 PM

Chopper, I tore apart my parts axle and got a real good look at the differential, did you take yours apart? If not.... Your not going to be happy ...they do not have a single bearing,bushing or anything for that matter except a nice fit around the gears, no pins to go bad only the gears to themselves and the housing!! Yup totAl friction makes them a limited slip, the harder you force them the harder they bind them selves against the housing bores.... Best keep a really good synthetic oil in yours if you want to turn when it gets hot.


Yes I had mine apart, replaced the bearings and seals that needed it. I didn't see anything to worry about. I have a list of most of the bearings and seals if you need it. The new trans turns fine cold, haven't had a chance to try it warmed up. The old axle would not turn left, it actually tore a caliper bracket loose trying. I haven't pulled it apart yet, but I suspect the gears in the planetary are piled up.

I thought about adding a bushing or bearing for a carrier, but if Peerless didn't think they needed it, I'm not going to do it.

I'm running Shell Spirax ( Shell Donax TD)oil.

It's supposed to be reasonably warm on the weekend, and the driveway has some hard packed snow to try it out on.

I'll know more after that.
  • TomLGT195 and propane1 have said thanks




Top