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#181 propane1 ONLINE  

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Posted June 11, 2015 - 08:04 PM

And the whine in the hydro may be from all the extra weight. Your over double the weight of the normal tractor. I know my tractors whine more if I am pulling something or going up a steep grade at a low engine speed. So the more you pull the more whine, my John Deere 140 does the same thing, when under load. Not sure about the MF 14 if it does the whine of not, but I think it does some under load. Noel
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Posted June 11, 2015 - 08:27 PM

I have a feeling the rag couplers let go first. They are usually the weakest link. After that things start flailing around and parts bend faster than one can react. I've been making mine out of conveyor belting and if the load is going to be heavy I will ad an extra.

Hope this doesn't hold you back too long.


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Posted June 11, 2015 - 09:50 PM

Was there any vibration at any time before it let go. It seems you had it running a few times before this happened. Ouch, that's not good at all. Noel.

There was nothing noticeable, at all. And yes I had it running several dozen times as I was trying to get the mixture figured out.

 

It's not insurmountable. I've got everything out, (that was fun) and just trying to decide whether  to rebuild the stock driveshaft or go to U-joints.

 

I have the driveshaft flange straightened out. Just trying to find info on pilot bushings, if they exist, and keeping the unit together.

 

I'm also seriously considering pulling the fly wheel and redrilling and retapping the holes. The adapter bolts look like they just pulled out of the flywheel without stripping any threads. That's not right.  Nothing about this issue looks right to me. I'm beginning to wonder about the flywheel itself.


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Posted June 11, 2015 - 09:52 PM

I would go with U joints.


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Posted June 11, 2015 - 09:53 PM

And the whine in the hydro may be from all the extra weight. Your over double the weight of the normal tractor. I know my tractors whine more if I am pulling something or going up a steep grade at a low engine speed. So the more you pull the more whine, my John Deere 140 does the same thing, when under load. Not sure about the MF 14 if it does the whine of not, but I think it does some under load. Noel

Actually, I found out that the whine was directly related to the position of the pedal. My recent tests have shown a serious reduction in noise now that I have the linkage setup better. The whine only shows up during the transition from forward to reverse.


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Posted June 11, 2015 - 09:54 PM

Did it damage any thing on the engine? Were you trying to move it when this happened. ? Sorry for all the questions, just wondering. Noel.

All it did was pull the adapter bolts, tear up the rags, and ding up some sheet metal. The engine runs fine, with no vibration.


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Posted June 11, 2015 - 09:57 PM

The one thing that bugs me is why the flywheel nut came off, and if it could have affected the balance enough to screw things up. The flywheel didn't move, as afar as I can tell.


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Posted June 12, 2015 - 03:26 AM

With that set up you must be sure of the alignment and that bushing your missing is made of bronze and is important. U joints are difficult because of the way things mount at the hydro. That bolt in the middle is a doosy!!!
Make up some new rags and get your alignment closer, because when you put that bushing in , it won't align if it's off too far and bind up.
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Posted June 12, 2015 - 08:36 AM

Right now the plan is to make a new motor mount plate to drop the engine 1/4", install a pilot bushing  and new rags, tap out the flywheel threads and try again.

 

I'm really puzzled on how grade 8.8 metric bolts pulled out of the threads on the flywheel.

 

I'm also considering losing the engine mount plate altogether, and welding a new mount into the frame.

 

Now I need to find a pilot bushing somewhere.


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Posted June 12, 2015 - 11:35 AM

I had to re-upload the video showing the fabrication of the idlers and sprockets.
I have no idea why one link shows the video in the post and 1 doesn't
http://youtu.be/J9at2aWAwZs

I tried to show this vid to someone at work, it won't let me play the embedded... Says its a setting on the video.
Tried editing in a link, still couldn't get it to act proper.
I showed him on YouTube directly tho.
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Posted June 12, 2015 - 04:02 PM

I tried to show this vid to someone at work, it won't let me play the embedded... Says its a setting on the video.
Tried editing in a link, still couldn't get it to act proper.
I showed him on YouTube directly tho.

Try it now. Apparently I had embedding turned off for that one.


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Posted June 12, 2015 - 05:01 PM

Try it now. Apparently I had embedding turned off for that one.


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Posted June 12, 2015 - 05:28 PM

My next big question is where do I find the pilot bushings, and does any one have a part number or picture?


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Posted June 12, 2015 - 05:33 PM

Why did you have metric bolts into the flywheel? Those should have been 3/8" SAE.


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Posted June 12, 2015 - 07:34 PM

Cheapo Chinese engine, not the original


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