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#1 Texas Deere and Horse OFFLINE  

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Posted October 21, 2013 - 04:24 PM

Is the Delco S/G on the Wisconsin TRA-10D used on the Kohlers or any other engine. I am trying to find out what I have as far as running engines is and I need a Starter for this Hog. I have several of the Delco/Kohler Starters on the shelf.


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Posted October 21, 2013 - 04:29 PM

I think the only big difference between starter generators is the rotation they turn. Some are clockwise and some are counter clock wise depending on the engine and how they are mounted. If they turn the same way I don't see any reason why you couldn't use one from another brand of engine. The only other small difference I can think of would be the pulley on the end might not be the same. The pulleys are easy to change though.


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Posted October 21, 2013 - 04:32 PM

Thanks Matt.



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Posted October 21, 2013 - 04:36 PM

Yes Brian, Rotation and the wisconsin takes the shorter S/G because of the block bracket.


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Posted October 21, 2013 - 04:53 PM

Yes Brian, Rotation and the wisconsin takes the shorter S/G because of the block bracket.

 

Is the short one used on any particular make tractor with a Kohler?


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Posted October 21, 2013 - 05:15 PM

Not sure! The inside dim. is approx. 6 1/8. to fit bracket on mine


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Posted October 21, 2013 - 05:38 PM

One of my D4-10's had the shorter S/G, but had bad windings for charging, so I took a longer S/G and put on it.  The bracket for the longer S/G fit right on the Wisconsin block.


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Posted October 21, 2013 - 08:44 PM

One of my D4-10's had the shorter S/G, but had bad windings for charging, so I took a longer S/G and put on it.  The bracket for the longer S/G fit right on the Wisconsin block.

 

So if I understand you right Daniel, I can borrow one off of one of the Cubs and it should bolt right up? Is the rotation the same, I assume it is but you know what they say about ass/u/me don't you!!



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Posted October 21, 2013 - 08:46 PM

So if I understand you right Daniel, I can borrow one off of one of the Cubs and it should bolt right up? Is the rotation the same, I assume it is but you know what they say about ass/u/me don't you!!

 

No, the Cub Cadet starters turn wrong direction(CCW)!  You have to have one that drives off the flywheel side (CW rotation).  All the older Cubs I've ever seen drive on the crank output side.

Rotation is as viewed from looking at the pulley end of the starter/gen.


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Posted October 21, 2013 - 08:49 PM

Brian,

The rotation should be the same. Most engines run counter clockwise from the pto side and clockwise from the flywheel side. Most of the Kohlers in the Cubs are mounted with the flywheel side front along with the starter pulley mounted on the front also. That is the way the Wisconsin is mounted up in the Bush Hogs as well.


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Posted October 21, 2013 - 08:49 PM

No, the Cub Cadet starters turn wrong direction(CCW)!  You have to have one that drives off the flywheel side (CW rotation).  All the older Cubs I've ever seen drive on the crank output side.

Rotation is as viewed from looking at the pulley end of the starter/gen.

 

I guess I will have to look at a couple of the Briggs that are on the MW tractors. Thanks Daniel!!



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Posted October 21, 2013 - 08:51 PM

Daniel has me second guessing myself on how the engines are mounted in the Cubs. It's been so long since that 122 of mine has been together I forget how the engine sat in it. I know I have the rotation right for most engines but not sure now on how the engines sit in the older Cubs.


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Posted October 21, 2013 - 08:52 PM

Brian,

I have that S12D if you are still interested in it. I am pretty sure the starter generator charged also. I don't know how soon you need it though.


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Posted October 21, 2013 - 08:52 PM

Not looking at one, I have to say the flywheel is towards the rear of the tractor.



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Posted October 21, 2013 - 08:53 PM

Brian,

I have that S12D if you are still interested in it. I am pretty sure the starter generator charged also. I don't know how soon you need it though.

 

Yes, I am still interested in it. I thought you were keeping it to keep the HD 12 Original?






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