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#1 68guns OFFLINE  

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Posted October 03, 2013 - 11:27 AM

Anyone have any ideas on how to remove that tiny pin holding the collar to the axle? Not enough metal sticking out to get vice grips on it. In the process of replacing the oil seal on that side. Note..its the 1/8 in pin not the large roll pin.

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Posted October 03, 2013 - 11:44 AM

Thanks for the good picture of the pin, if you can get the the opposite side of it you could use a drift punch to drive it out, but first II would put some kind of penetrating oil around it.

 

 

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Posted October 03, 2013 - 12:14 PM

Have you tried a center punch or a similar tool. It looks like a simple C-lock pin. In case of need, a gas pipe tongs may help. For slackening the pin, penetration oil will be useful.



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Posted October 03, 2013 - 12:49 PM

Drift pin punch.  They make different sizes.  If it's an 1/8" pin, you need a 1/8" punch.  They are flat on the end, not pointed and not tapered. It is the same sice as the pin so it doesn't fit in the little hole. 



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Posted October 03, 2013 - 01:02 PM

That looks like it is a roll pin. They can be a pain but, with the right tools and technique it will come out. 1. Soak with penerating oil and file off any burrs. 2. Find the correct size punch. 3. Find a sleeve that just fits on the pin and can be used to guide the punch accurately onto the pin. 4. With everything carefully aligned, give it a good wack with a 1# ball peen hammer. That should push it into the axle. Then remove the sleeve and drive it through. It pays to hit it hard because soft hits can cause it to peen. Use a new roll pin for reassembly. Good Luck, we are all pulling for you. Rick


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Posted October 03, 2013 - 01:29 PM

Forgot to mention that it DOES NOT go through to the other side. It looks like it stakes into the axle or possibly holds the keyway in place?



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Posted October 03, 2013 - 01:47 PM

Just slide the hub off the axle and then use a punch to drive the pin through. The pin is only around 3/4 inches long and will fall out the other side. Not sure why you want to remove it to change a oil seal as it is not in the way.


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Posted October 03, 2013 - 01:53 PM

Ok..thanks Bob. I thought that pin might be holding the collar on because the thing will not budge.



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Posted October 03, 2013 - 01:56 PM

More then likely you have a burr or something on the keyway holding it on. Try taking a hammer and tap the collar and see if it comes off.



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Posted October 03, 2013 - 06:37 PM

Just slide the hub off the axle and then use a punch to drive the pin through. The pin is only around 3/4 inches long and will fall out the other side. Not sure why you want to remove it to change a oil seal as it is not in the way.

 

:ditto:

 

All that Roll pin is for is so the freewheel pin doesn't back all the way out. 



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Posted October 09, 2013 - 08:52 AM

I really  think that pin has something to do with the hub not coming off...look at the diagram...the red circled pin has nothing to do with the big roll pin backing out. The clip pictured is what holds that pin in...

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Posted October 09, 2013 - 09:36 AM

I really  think that pin has something to do with the hub not coming off...look at the diagram...the red circled pin has nothing to do with the big roll pin backing out. The clip pictured is what holds that pin in...

 

As others have already said, that roll pin is only there to prevent the free-wheeling pin from coming out of the hub.  

That diagram is just an "exploded view" for parts identification, and does not depict its exact location or purpose.

 

The hub is probably rusted to the axle shaft, or the keyways are buggered-up, preventing the hub from sliding off.  ....The small roll pin does not retain the hub to the axle !!!!!    .....Feel free to remove the roll pin if you must, but that will not solve your problem. 






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