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#1 motobreeder OFFLINE  

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Posted September 29, 2013 - 08:01 PM

I just picked up a case 444.  Anything I should look for or maintenance?

 

Runs and drives, but there's a gap between the current condition and perfect.  Previous owner rolled it once because it freewheeled downhill.

 

Doesn't look too bad - very little rust.  It appears to have spent a good portion of it's life inside.

 

 

It hasn't been used much in the past 10 years and none in the past 2.  It was able to start and run and once the old gas was through the system, it starting running nicely with no smoke.

 

The previous owner told me that it would overheat and stop.  Driving from the trailer to the garage, it stopped and wouldn't start.  When I get some time, I need to re-diagnose the problem - fuel, fire, etc.

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Seller thought it was a 1975.  The numbers on the tag appear to agree.

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Doesn't have a 3pt, rear PTO or mower deck.

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Once I get this running, I may be in the market for a mower deck.

 

I've been wanting a big-wheel case for a while and this one called my name.

 

 


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Posted September 29, 2013 - 08:10 PM

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Not sure of the stalling, maybe coil? Congrats!


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Posted September 29, 2013 - 08:20 PM

i agree with A.T.C, i would try checking the coil, nice looking case you have there, i have a case 224 and love it, they are good tractors


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Posted September 29, 2013 - 08:23 PM

Nice Case...I have a similar problem with my MTD 990 it has a new coil in it seems to run pretty hot and will shut down but start right up again.....not sure what it is yet...


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Posted September 29, 2013 - 08:33 PM

Nice looking 444 you got there, I would replace the coil also. I bet that is your problem.


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Posted September 29, 2013 - 08:49 PM

When you do the coil, don't forget the condenser.  That can also cause a similar problem.  Long story there, but it has happened to me.

 

Check the primary lead to and from the coil, you also might have a short.

 

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Posted September 29, 2013 - 09:09 PM

Thanks for the advice.  I have a coil or two from other motors that I can try.

 

Also, since the tractor wasn't run for 2 years, I'm guessing the points need to be cleaned and re-gapped.

But the stops when hot sounds like the condenser to me.  Replacement at this point would be "routine maintenance".

 

The steering feels very snug - is that a sign of a low "mileage" Case?  No hour meter - I'm not sure the typical wear points.

 

What about the drive line?  I'm guessing I need to replace the hydraulic fluid and possibly a filter.

 

 

Thanks,

Dwayne.



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Posted September 29, 2013 - 09:24 PM

Boy do I like those Case tractors in that color combo !
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Posted September 30, 2013 - 05:08 AM

Congratulations. It sounds and looks like a nice tractor. I'd give the whole tractor a thorough once over, looking for any worn out parts, leaks etc. A full tune up on the engine will probably turn up the problem. If not you will have narrowed  the search for the fault considerably.


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Posted September 30, 2013 - 06:40 AM

Nice find MB. I've been keeping an eye out for one of those too.

I hope you get that issue sorted out. I think coil is the problem too.


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Posted September 30, 2013 - 06:58 AM

The steering feels very snug - is that a sign of a low "mileage" Case?  No hour meter - I'm not sure the typical wear points.

Yes and no,  heavy parts are used so wear is minimal

 

What about the drive line?  I'm guessing I need to replace the hydraulic fluid and possibly a filter.

Download a service and parts manual per your serial # , motor oil is used as hydraulic fluid, manual has proper way to change fluid

 

Good luck with the new to you Case, great tractors


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Posted October 02, 2013 - 02:23 AM

Congratulations on the Case! Sweet GT you got!

I would start with all the typical tune up procedures.

 

As for the hydraulic oil change.

On the bottom of the Travel Control Valve (TCV) there is a Allen nut. That's where you drain the hydraulic oil. Make sure you get the wrench on all the way in the hole. Then you pull the spark plug out, put a big bucket under the TCV and turn over the motor with the starter, cranking a few seconds at a time until no more oil comes out.. All the oil will pump out the hole.

Case recommends 20w40 motor oil in the manual. Most all of us use Shell Rotella 15w40 engine oil to be an excellent affordable replacement. Walmart has it for about $13.00 a gallon.

or 15w50 if your not in the cold much. No filter on these older machines.  

Good luck!


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Posted October 06, 2013 - 11:56 PM

Got a few minutes to play with the 444 today.

 - Changed the engine oil.  I'm not ignoring the rest of the good advice here, just didn't get that far.

 - The gas was leaking like crazy. Turned out to be a split line between the pump and the carb.  Easy fix.  Good fuel pressure.

 - Adjusted the jets on the carb - now it idles and revs no problems

Runs and drives.  Now I can start working on the details.

 

I'm new to hydraulic drive.  Not sure what it should sound like.  During deceleration, there was a shudder or grinding sound - not unlike the funky sound that comes from my hydrostatic Cub Cadet when you let off the forward pedal quickly.

 

 

Charging system may need a new regulator.  First it wasn't charging, then my volt-meter was showing 16 volts.

 

The motor mounts are shot, but looks like replacements are available:

   http://gardentractor...e-4#entry345753

   McMaster-Carr part # 6008k33   $10.67 each.

 

Some cracking on the rear side-walls.  I'm hoping they won't need to be replaced.



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Posted October 07, 2013 - 03:15 AM

The motor mounts are shot, but looks like replacements are available:

   http://gardentractor...e-4#entry345753

   McMaster-Carr part # 6008k33   $10.67 each.

 

Some cracking on the rear side-walls.  I'm hoping they won't need to be replaced.

 

To help make the rubber mounts go longer for you until replacements can be bought put a large fender washer on both sides of the rubber and bolt down to help clamp the rubber together. There should be a washer of the correct size on the backside already.


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Posted October 13, 2013 - 07:40 PM

I changed the transmission oil - 80/90w oil.  Forgot to get some Rotella 15w40 for the hydraulic drive.

The motor runs quite well, but may have a small knock.

Charging is working, but will need to pull the regulator and clean the contacts.

 

The control is very sensitive.  I've had a lot of rough starts and a few close calls.

My son on the other hand can drive it as smooth as a modern hydrostatic cub.

 

Anyone with a teen son knows - just because you own something doesn't mean you have something.

I don't think he has walked all weekend - he's been using the Case as prosthetic legs.

He's declared the big-wheel case is his new favourite GT.


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