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Posted September 25, 2013 - 09:31 PM

Kenny P. showed me this Trans Axle he has,but we don't know what it came from. It's the same unit as the Massey and Fords use. But the hub is held by a"C" clip instead of a big nut. It also has a 5 hole hub. You can also see a back plate for the hitch of the GT.

 

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Posted September 26, 2013 - 03:44 AM

peerless model 2500??



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Posted September 26, 2013 - 05:56 AM

If it's a Peerless the model and ser no. should be tagged or stamped on it some where. Knowing the exact model no. might help determine where it was used and also what features it has.


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Posted September 26, 2013 - 07:23 AM

peerless model 2500??

We know it's a 2500 Peerless with Eaton 11 pump. Just not sure what tractor it came from. Those hubs are different. JD didn't use hubs like that did they?

 

I'll look today and see if I can find a plate on it!



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Posted September 26, 2013 - 07:42 AM

what has my attention is what looks like a hydraulic motor / actuator / orbit motor  attached near the brakeshaft?  or am I all wet?  I just never saw one with that kind of device on it.



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Posted September 26, 2013 - 09:32 AM

Yea, the hub throws me off. I know they used the 2500's in various brands, maybe from a smaller massey? the lower hitch tabs sure look like the ones on them. I know the 1655/1855, and Sears FF's used a 6 lug rear and I think the 2600.



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Posted September 26, 2013 - 11:00 AM

Kenny, have you taken a look at the Peerless tech. manual. It has a lot of info on the differences between models. There is a copy in the manuals section.


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Posted September 26, 2013 - 12:03 PM

what has my attention is what looks like a hydraulic motor / actuator / orbit motor  attached near the brakeshaft?  or am I all wet?  I just never saw one with that kind of device on it.

 

Those are orbit motors that Kenny just had laying on top of the axle, not part of the set up.



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Posted September 26, 2013 - 02:44 PM

Ok, sorry for the mixup.  my eyes aint what they used to be.

 

I'm going to look at both of my tractors more closely tonight. one is a mtd 990 1979 model, and the other is a 79 model Ford lgt 145.  it seems to me I've seen those snap rings before...............................


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Posted September 26, 2013 - 06:32 PM

ok.  my LGT145 has large nuts on the end of the axle.  My MTD 990 has the snap rings, but the hub is more flat instead of the cone shape of the hub I see in your pictures.

maybe its a difference in the year, or the style of wheel that came on it that makes the difference.

that's all I got, I hope I helped.

 

ps, if the filter unit I see in the picture is attached to the hydro on the axle, MTD makes sense in that my 990 has the same kind of spin on filter for the hydraulic system.


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Posted September 26, 2013 - 06:47 PM

 i got busy today & didn't look this over very good.  All the hoses and etc. hanging off it says Jacobsen. But those hubs say different!



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Posted September 28, 2013 - 01:22 PM

If it's a Peerless the model and ser no. should be tagged or stamped on it some where. Knowing the exact model no. might help determine where it was used and also what features it has.

Here's the #'s on it:

MOD 2548

Peerless

4040 4226 

If I read this right, the 4040 is the date code. That could be the 040 day of 1974? 1984? Serial is 4226.

 

I uploaded a PDF to the manuals that shows the axle end configurations. It's here.


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Posted September 28, 2013 - 11:34 PM

Thanks Kenny, That is a good reference for us to have. :thumbs:



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Posted September 30, 2013 - 10:54 AM

 that looks to be from a '80's vintage Gilson made unit. It is a Peerless 2500/ Eaton 11 Hydro unit. Also should have a disc brake too.

 That is one of the late model Eaton 11 units that have internal cushion pistons . If it was not abused it will be very positive and smooth! And quiet too. It may have a u-joint yoke on it or a flange drive, it all depended on the year and generation of motion control . Lever or pedal.

 A wicked upgrade to any older LGT for sure !!

 BUT YOU CAN NOT USE THE AXLES As they are WAY different lengths and offsets. Just swap out the hydro unit , as it is only 4 bolts, a few lines, and the driveshaft. and a nut from the linkage.


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Posted October 01, 2013 - 05:51 AM

 that looks to be from a '80's vintage Gilson made unit. It is a Peerless 2500/ Eaton 11 Hydro unit. Also should have a disc brake too.

 That is one of the late model Eaton 11 units that have internal cushion pistons . If it was not abused it will be very positive and smooth! And quiet too. It may have a u-joint yoke on it or a flange drive, it all depended on the year and generation of motion control . Lever or pedal.

 A wicked upgrade to any older LGT for sure !!

 BUT YOU CAN NOT USE THE AXLES As they are WAY different lengths and offsets. Just swap out the hydro unit , as it is only 4 bolts, a few lines, and the driveshaft. and a nut from the linkage.

The brake is missing. Don't have a drive shaft. I'll see if the Eaton has any #'s on it. I haven't looked at it to closely, mainly interested in the valve, cylinder and remote filter when I bought it. But if that hydro is a better one, I'll hang on to it. I am getting ready to put an engine in the #2 FF. Don't know how good that one is.






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