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#1 EricFromPa ONLINE  

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Posted September 24, 2013 - 09:45 PM

I picked this one up just before the sun went down.I hate to do it but it will be a Donor for it's parts.I'm putting the Dash tower,hood,rear fenders,tool box and the engine in my 1254.

 

 

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Yes that is a G11 hood on a 1254.The G11 is sadly in to rough of condition to restore.The front axle carrier is busted,pto assembly is frozen solid,steering column is frozen solid and the steering wheel is busted.The steering wheel on these are really cheaply made.They have a steel Hub in the center and the wheel is molded fast to that.Doesn't have a steel skeleton under the plastic or bake-a-lite like the older ones have.

 

 

1 Pic till tomorrow when I have a bit more light.

 

 

The hood and rear fenders are made of a bit thinner material.Alot thinner than the original hood and rear fenders on the 1254.But they are in Alot better condition overall.No rusted through holes or pitting.

 

The tractor when I'm done will basically be a G11 with a 1254 frame,rear and dual belt PTO and drive set up.

 

It should make a decent tractor when I get it cleaned up and put together.

 

This is the Only G11 that I've seen with Dealer equipped? Headlights and Headlight switch.It has what looks like all factory wiring.I'll rewire it because most of the wires are dry rotted and cracked but at-least it's all there.

 

 

I'll get some more pics of it before I take it apart.

 

I just Had to try and save her.Costed me more than I wanted to spend,considering where it came from (Ethan) and the condition of the tractor.


Edited by EricFromPa, September 24, 2013 - 09:47 PM.

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Posted September 24, 2013 - 11:36 PM

One piece at a time!


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Posted September 25, 2013 - 05:03 AM

Too bad it's been let go to that point. Using it's parts to keep the 1254 rolling is much better than seeing it go straight to scrap.


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Posted September 25, 2013 - 06:19 AM

That grille sure looks good. I can understand that it's too far gone to restore/refurb. Hope you can get enough parts for the 1254,


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Posted September 25, 2013 - 03:54 PM

OldBuzzard your welcome to the Tranny for in your G11 if you want it.Next time the HMS Rainmaker comes this way make sure to stop in and get it.It will need axle seals on both sides but it SHOULD be a good usable tranny.

 

Here's a few more pics.

 

Poor old girl.

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OUCH!

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Serial and model # tag And a cool little Dealer decal.Is it #813 off the production line?I have no idea how to read a Serial #.

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Posted September 25, 2013 - 04:02 PM

The front alxe carrier is cracked almost the whole way through and all 4 bolts are snapped off flush.I think Someone hit something HARD and at full speed with a plow on the front.

 

It had a set of home made concrete wheel weights on it and a good set of 2 link tire chains on it.I took them off and put them in the shed.



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Posted September 25, 2013 - 05:21 PM

One thing to consider is that except for the engine, and PTO the G11 is identical to the G10.

It shouldn't really be all that hard to find a G10 donor tractor or two and restore it as a G11.

The G11 is rare enough to make that worthwhile.
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Posted September 25, 2013 - 07:07 PM

OB I would do that but the PTO is gone.I got the engine,dash tower and rear fenders off of it today.Someone cut the end of the PTO rod off where the Pulley should be or it broke off.Both front frame rails are flattened on the ends and the frame is bent upwards just behind the engine.I could fix the frame but the way the front axle carrier is busted up I would bet the frame is cracked.

 

Both front engine mount studs are pulled out of the mounting bracket.The tractor was either ran into or someone was plowing in 3rd gear and hit something very solid.

 

The only thing that will be left of my 1254 is the frame,rear and steering column.The rest will be G11.I will be painting the frame and rear Black.

 

 

Bolens tractors do not come up for sale that often around here.When they do they go for a pretty penny.The last G10 that was for sale locally they were asking $800 for tractor with a plow and a ratty deck in need of some serious TLC.Everyone around here is either a hoarder or thinks they're old busted stuff is worth they're weight in gold.There's a few Medium frame Bolens,100s of Cub Cadets and a bunch of JDs for sale around here and 1000s of MTD built mowers but that's about all.

 

Every once and a while an ole tube frame will pop up but they want crazy money for them or they are in horrible non running condition and they still want $300-$450 for them.



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Posted September 25, 2013 - 07:53 PM

Going to get me a bit heavier wire wheel and another pack of floppy wheels.Have to hit the frame with them real good.I soaked the frame down with about a gallon of engine Degreaser,I'll pressure wash it off tomorrow morning.Hopefully the caked on grease,dirt and oil softens up a bit.  


Edited by EricFromPa, September 25, 2013 - 07:55 PM.


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Posted September 25, 2013 - 09:00 PM

Well, the G10 PTO will work as well. It just won't have the PTO brake.

That's what one of my G11s has. Only two have the 'proper' PTO.

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Posted September 25, 2013 - 10:15 PM

Is the PTO brake up top or down below?I think there's a extra little arm on the top part that goes under the engine.

 

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Everything on the front end is trashed other than the axle and hood but that was bent up and torn a bit where the hinge is.All that's left of the PTO is the Shaft and it's frozen solid.There's no pulley or clutch on it.

 

All of the idlers and linkages are frozen including the clutch and PTO.

 

 

This tractor came from the Kid that you got the 1250 and sickle mower off of.It's sat with the hood off and the front buried in mud out behind his place for atleast 3 years.

 

I still have the smell of old gas and oil on my hands from digging it out.

 

I'm going to take the engine mounts off the engine and weld the tabs back on.I also have to drill and tap the exhaust bolt holes.The 1" threaded exhaust port is stripped out very badly.It's more of a 1 1/2" hole.I found an exhaust flange in the shed that matches the existing flange bolt holes.I just hope there's enough material left to thread.I may have to drill a bit deeper to get a few good strong threads to bolt the flange on with.I will be making a Brace that will be welded to the pipe and bolted to 1 of the head bolts.

 

Here's an older Pic that Ethan sent me of it.The exhaust port is really nasty looking but I'm pretty sure I can do something with it

 

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Posted September 25, 2013 - 11:23 PM

The brake would be below the pulley.

Here's a pic of the left side of the PTO. The rod should be on the other side.

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Here's the actual brake, which also acts as a belt guide.
 

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Posted September 26, 2013 - 05:41 AM

Its number 713 off the factory line.


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Posted September 26, 2013 - 08:14 AM

Its number 713 off the factory line.

I noticed that.

 

That means that we still haven't seen one with a 4 digit serial number.


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Posted September 26, 2013 - 08:24 PM

OK after a Bit of thinking things through I decided to see how bad the frame was bent.

 

I stripped the G11 down to the frame and rear and put a straight edge on the frame.It's bent upwards a little over 1/4" on the left frame tube.Not bad so I took it up to the neighbors and heated the tube and got it straightened out.I also got the big flat spots on the front tubes straightened.

 

It looks pretty good.

 

I Will be putting the G11 back to original other than 3 things that I will be swapping out off of the 1254.

 

 

It will have the 1254 rear,steering column and the PTO.The PTO on the 1254 has a single belt pulley on it anyway.The PTO on the G11 is missing the Brake rod,Clutch/belt guard,pulley and the PTO shaft is seized and badly rusted.The steering column on the G11 is frozen up and the top has about an 3/4" inch of play.The top bushing is gone and the shaft has a very deep groove worn into it.

 

I need the lockable rear for plowing and tilling.

 

If the engine in my 1254 was a good runner I would not of even considered buying the G11.He soaked me for $300 + my worn out HH120 engine with the NEW $95 carb on it for the G11.

 

If someone were to give me $300 for an engine to stick in the 1254 I would let the G11 go.This is the engine that I've been eying up.16hp Honda clone with electric start.$299 free shipping.http://www.ebay.com/...=item1c369d77c0

If no one wants it then it's going to get put together with what parts I have and it will be used for tilling,plowing and Mowing.I can't afford to buy a 3rd tube frame at the prices they're going for just for the engine,steering column and the front axle carrier.

 

 

I bought the G11 in pieces and planned on using it for a parts machine from day 1.It was days away from getting stripped and scrapped.Ethan was going to pull the engine and scrap the rest of it.He took a load of stripped GTs in for scrap last tuesday.If I wouldn't have called him about the G11 it would be gone.I was just happy that I could atleast try to save Most of it.

 

 

I really really hate to strip the 1254.I have $400 wrapped up in it and a bunch of parts.PO assured me that the engine was good but I got screwed once again.It ran after I put $95 in parts into it but it knocked and smoked constantly.

 

I don't get angry at much but this has me pretty hot.I'm almost to the point of junking everything. :mad2:


Edited by EricFromPa, September 26, 2013 - 08:46 PM.





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