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#76 olcowhand ONLINE  

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Posted November 04, 2013 - 04:19 PM

cheluIS, no problem with your background.  We welcome all here.  Helping others is what we like to do best, so ask away when you feel the need.  None of us were born with knowledge...we ALL had to learn.   

  One question on your plow....the metal piece in front of your plow's leading cutting edge....ours normally has a coulter wheel to slice the ground ahead of the share.  Yours looks to be just a flat bar.  Seems that would create a lot of drag as well.  If you either removed it, or replaced with a rolling blade wheel, that too would help with plowing ease.  Or am I seeing wrong on what that piece of metal is/does?

 Also, when moving the plow to the right...you may actually need to overlap the last furrow some, as there is usually flex in the plow which kicks the plow a bit more to the left under a load.  You will see if it flexes once you get it close.


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Posted November 04, 2013 - 04:43 PM

@olcowhand .The metal piece in front of plow is a "precutter" , that's how I bought the plow . All plows that I saw I stores are like this . Is a metal bar with a little sharp edge . Only the bigger plows for big tractors - up to 25-50 hp have the precut wheel . I was thinking to put a cutting wheel in front of plow but the time is the problem . I also have to study how to put the wheel ...diameter,how high , distance to plow , etc. and where to buy it .

 

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"Also, when moving the plow to the right...you may actually need to overlap the last furrow some, as there is usually flex in the plow which kicks the plow a bit more to the left under a load.  You will see if it flexes once you get it close."

You mean to pass with the left wheel of tractor over two furrows and let the plow in middle where it is ?

 

Maybe some pictures of your plows to see the wheel?


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Posted November 04, 2013 - 05:42 PM

cheluIS, I'm pretty sure that Olcowhand makes and sells gauge wheels.



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Posted November 04, 2013 - 06:05 PM

Thank you MFDAC. I also need a pic of the bolt if you have one .

 

@olcowhand . I measured the width of the plow ,the "cut" is 15 cm wide . I think I have to move the plow 9 cm to the right (viewed from back of tractor) . So the next row will be near the previous row . Now I have aprox. 25 cm between rows . Thank you for observation . Live and learn .

You have to understand that I'm new in this and I don't have agricultural background -I was born in a big city , I was for 15 years in IT&C and last 10 years economist ...

I'm very pleased that I found in this forum help and advices.

Thank you again you all.

Hello again, I got a bolt off and took pictures. I'm sure you can convert it to metric, or maybe you need the sae bolt? it is 3-3/4" long and is a 1/2" NC thread. I was raised in a rural setting, but like you, not in agriculture.

 

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Posted November 04, 2013 - 06:25 PM

@olcowhand .The metal piece in front of plow is a "precutter" , that's how I bought the plow . All plows that I saw I stores are like this . Is a metal bar with a little sharp edge . Only the bigger plows for big tractors - up to 25-50 hp have the precut wheel . I was thinkink to put a cutting wheel in front of plow but the time is the problem . I also have to study how to put the wheel ...diameter,how high , distance to plow , etc. and where to buy it .

 

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"Also, when moving the plow to the right...you may actually need to overlap the last furrow some, as there is usually flex in the plow which kicks the plow a bit more to the left under a load.  You will see if it flexes once you get it close."

You mean to pass with the left wheel of tractor over two furrows and let the plow in middle where it is ?

 

Maybe some pictures of your plows to see the wheel?

 

This will better explain the overlap.  In theory, (when viewed from behind tractor with plow mounted) you want the trailing edge of the plow share (red dot in pic) to align with the inside edge of your right rear tire.  But if there is flex, your plow can be deflected to the left, which may leave a strip of un-turned soil.  If it does deflect, then you must move the plow more to the right to make up for the flex, which would overlap the "red dot point" a bit past the inner edge of the tire.

  This pic also shows one type of coulter wheel.  Most have a round bar holding the coulter wheel.

 

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Posted November 04, 2013 - 06:34 PM

Now I understand what you mean . Very important info form me .Thanks. Tomorrow (in fact today , is 1:30 in midnight) I'll search in stores a kind of wheel to put at my plow .



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Posted November 04, 2013 - 06:40 PM

I started a thread some time back about my Massey and the plow.  If you look it over you may find some information that will help you.  In particular, one of the pictures in THIS post :

 http://gardentractor...-plow/?p=135420

 

has a picture looking from the front of the tractor along the right front tire to the back, and you can see how the plow sits.  It also should have some information that should help you 'level' the plow so it sits as it should when your wheels are in the furrow.


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Posted November 09, 2013 - 01:54 PM

Thank you again for your advices . I modified my plow.Bought a disc from a seeder , drill it in the middle and adapt it to the plow .The disc replace the precutter.

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Moved the plow to the right as olcowhand recomended so the furrow is overlaping .

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The plow is working much easier but I still need the wheel weights.

 

And the result :

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For me as an amateur gardener the result is good enough .

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http://youtu.be/VAD52h0yR_4

 

Keep in touch .


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Posted November 09, 2013 - 02:13 PM

Looks great!  Now, are you going to make a disc, or are you going to use a tiller to break up the clods of dirt?



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Posted November 09, 2013 - 02:20 PM

Much better!  Weights will make a huge difference.  You can also fluid fill the tires to add more weight.  You can use 1 part ethanol/alcohol to 4 parts water for a freeze proof mixture.  Break the bead on one side, and with tire on it's side, simply push the tire down just a bit off the bead, fill till it comes up to the bead, then air back up.


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Posted November 09, 2013 - 04:19 PM

That's looking much better! Glad the guys could help you out!



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Posted November 11, 2013 - 05:00 AM

@HowardsMF155 .I'm gone build a tiller connected to tractor PTO . Hope to finish this project till spring . This winter I want to make some improvements to the dash and put an actuator to 3PH .

Now , after I finished the plowing I have to make the handrail at the parking as my boss (read wife !!!) ordered .


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Posted November 11, 2013 - 06:53 AM

Must keep the boss happy. :D

Glad you're happy with the outcome and will be watching for future builds threads.... Even the handrail :thumbs:
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Posted November 12, 2013 - 08:44 AM

Great write up very enjoyable :)



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Posted November 17, 2013 - 03:17 PM

Off topic ...

 

Despite that she wasn't very happy with me buying the tractor , my wife made me a big surprise .

Tomorrow is my 45 anniversary so she ordered this birthcake for me . Very tasty ...

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ani putere means in roumanian years (of) power - you know ... horse power

 

Enjoy the details :

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I really was surprised by this cake and I like it so much so I wanted to share this with you .

Hope I didn't upset anybody with this offtopic post .

 

Keep in touch .


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