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Came Across An Old Bolens Reel Mower But Couldnt Buy It!


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Posted September 06, 2013 - 08:28 AM

I was walking the grounds of the Alexander steam show yesterday and spotted this on display under a tent!

 The owner came up to me and said its not for sale. He told me he was offered $1000 just for the engine because its "Rare".  So you can imagine the conversation ended rather quickly as I could tell this was one of those guys that thinks everything they have is a one of a kind Million dollar piece.

 

It was just aggravating seeing that Bolens there all dirty and falling apart and not being able to save it :(

 

Does anyone know about these Briggs FH engines? Are they really "Rare" like the guy was telling me?

 

 

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Posted September 06, 2013 - 09:00 AM

I did a Google search, and according to one guy on YouTube:

Uploaded on May 13, 2011


This is a 1929 Briggs and Stratton FH engine with round fins. Out of the 110,000 or so FH engines built, about 80,000 were the round cooling fin variety, like this one.


A search on YouTube found a LOT of hits on that engine, so I'm thinking that the guy is delusional.
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Posted September 06, 2013 - 09:05 AM

Interesting engine! normally an FH wouldn't be that rare but this isn't a typical FH. On a normal FH of that vintage there would have been a brass U shaped suction carb mounted on the base under where the carb now is. The gas tank was actually in the base and the suction tube went through that casting. The first question is, were there holes in the base under the carb?  I can't get a good enough look at the carb but an FI used a carb similar but the air cleaner came straght out the back. Makes me wonder if it was something built special for bolens.


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Posted September 06, 2013 - 09:09 AM

I did a Google search, and according to one guy on YouTube:


A search on YouTube found a LOT of hits on that engine, so I'm thinking that the guy is delusional.

I didn't pay any attention to the fins. I was too busy looking at the carb set up. An FH with a 3 digit number should have been a slant fin.


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Posted September 06, 2013 - 09:20 AM

It is amazing to see you gentlemen having all this knowledge about Bolen, This is what makes me feel comfortable when I have ask a question that I did not have the answer to or just for assistance. Thank You.

 

 

Dick



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Posted September 06, 2013 - 09:26 AM

It sounded like a sales con to me. If you offered him $1100 he'd tried for $1500 and eventually "let you have it" for $1300. Anywhere there is money, people will try to get it. Good Luck, Rick



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Posted September 06, 2013 - 12:50 PM

 

Does anyone know about these Briggs FH engines? Are they really "Rare" like the guy was telling me?

 

 

 

B&S Engine model FH Ser # 449 was manufactured December 1925, which was the 2nd month of production for the FH model.

 

Only 102 engines were produced in November '25, and only 382 engines were produced December '25.   ...Production stopped in 1933.  ....Over 100,000 model FH's were produced over a 9-year period.

 

It was rated at 1/2 hp, had a 2-1/4" bore x 2-1/4" stroke, and was to be operated at 1750-1800 rpm.

 

Considering this particular engine is almost 88 years old, there can't be too many of them that survived the WWII scrap drives.


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Posted September 06, 2013 - 05:02 PM

Good info here, b ut in the shape the ones in for the photo, I don't see any one knowledgeable paying him a grand for it, let alone a grand for the whole mower.  I think Doc has it right, that its just a money thing.



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Posted September 06, 2013 - 06:41 PM

I would print this off and take this tread back to him...

 

Bolens reels are a hard find to see but there out there.

Nice find any ways Doc.



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Posted September 06, 2013 - 10:45 PM

What is the red push mower? It has the briggs engine I need for my power pak

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Posted September 07, 2013 - 06:55 AM

What is the red push mower? It has the briggs engine I need for my power pak

 

It's a Gemco - Giant rotary, as shown on the mower deck.


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Posted September 07, 2013 - 02:36 PM

Wish you could have gotten this, Brian. Would have been an amazing piece to add to your collection! :thumbs:



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Posted September 07, 2013 - 03:41 PM

It's a Gemco - Giant rotary, as shown on the mower deck.


I couldn't make it out on my phone. I thought it said ginco giant.

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Posted September 07, 2013 - 06:22 PM

Wish you could have gotten this, Brian. Would have been an amazing piece to add to your collection! :thumbs:

 

I know Bill! :(

 

 

I would have loved to bring this one back to life and hear that old Briggs Run! Stuff like this needs to be cleaned up and shown.. not sitting in some dark barn rusting away.

Oh well, I guess the search continues for an early Bolens........

 

 

By the way, Good to hear from you Bill!



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Posted September 07, 2013 - 07:45 PM

Sure would be nice to see and hear that running. I love the open push rod and rocker arm!!




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