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I Need A Kohler Specialist, Possibly At Daniels Plow Day


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#61 gopher OFFLINE  

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Posted August 28, 2013 - 11:52 PM

If it's doing same thing as before and you had dry bowl that's why I said to use spray bottle to eliminate gas problem that way if it was just a fluke that the bowl was dry and did not have any thing to do with whats wrong . I have a 79- 321 it has the hole . Here is a site that might help you didn't see it here in the manuals http://www.kohlereng...pdf/tp_2379.pdf  You follow what I mean if it still runs like crap when you spritz it then it doesn't matter if your bowl is dry or not it's not a gas problem.  



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Posted August 29, 2013 - 04:58 AM

Its tough diagnosing an engine without it in front of me. I usually have to talk back and forth with it a bit to see what's going on lol. In all reality, I always try the simple things first. If your points are gapped at least .020" then you shouldn't have any problems. I have never fine tuned the timing on a kohler and yet to have any run problems. As long as the gap is correct then you should be good. Although I have had a bad spark plug that made my hairline go back farther. It would idle but lose spark on anything more than that. It was brand new! I would do a quick run through on everything. Also try removing that bowl. Does the engine smoke at all while running? Any tapping from the valve train?

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Aha! We have an 'Engine Whisperer' on the forum!

 

I think that little spring is on the float and needle to keep the needle from sticking when the bowl is empty. I agree with trying the 'spritz' of gas. If no change, it's another issue,



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Posted August 29, 2013 - 06:21 AM

Hardly a whisperer. We know there is nothing quiet about a Kohler. I've just spent many late nights with mine. Especially governors. Seems every Kohler I get has had the governor messed with. I always get phone calls from friends/family wanting me to fix their car over the phone. I don't even let them finish now. They want to bring it over just don't want to come out and ask lol.

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Posted August 29, 2013 - 06:32 AM

Casey, I had a Kohler with a coil that was going bad.  It would run fine to start with, then start acting  up and dying down to an idle.  It would wheeze and even blow gas out of the carb.  I too replaced the carb since it seemed to be a carb problem.  Now, the carb did have a lot of crud in it, our wonderful ethanol enhanced gas collected some water and had gunked up the carb.  I spent a lot of time chasing the fuel circuit until I ended up putting another coil on it, and it ran fine until I sold it a year later.  Is your coil mounted on the side of the engine or is it mounted under the flywheel?

 

As for the carb and trying to bypass the fuel circuit, instead of spritzing gasoline, you could try using an unlit propane torch directed into the mouth of the carb as well.  


Edited by HowardsMF155, August 29, 2013 - 06:35 AM.

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Posted August 29, 2013 - 07:14 AM

My coil pack is on the outside so i swapped it last year hoping the coil was the issue, no change though.
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Posted September 08, 2014 - 09:47 PM

Refreshing this thread, no need for plow day experts. Figured I would mention that I figured out a problem when I swapped the carb to my Cub Cadet 102 and couldn't get it running right. Said carb is embossed "30". I am in process of rebuilding a 26 carb for it.

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Posted September 14, 2014 - 08:51 PM

Ok, final update, with a fully cleaned and rebuilt Kohler 26 carb, it starts and runs exactly as I would expect. I can't get out of the shop to drive it, but it needs a driveline repair anyhow.

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Posted September 14, 2014 - 09:07 PM

#30 has a larger bore. It was used on all 16 and 18 hp kohlers. Some 14 hp also had them. Anything smaller is too much carb. Would definitely cause you issues. Are you going to Daniels this year?

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Posted September 14, 2014 - 09:23 PM

No, I am not going to make it to Daniels this year either. Last year it was truck troubles, this year it is bad timing. Hopefully next year...
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Posted September 14, 2014 - 09:29 PM

#30 has a larger bore. It was used on all 16 and 18 hp kohlers. Some 14 hp also had them. Anything smaller is too much carb. Would definitely cause you issues. Are you going to Daniels this year?
Eric


See, I replaced the original carb since I had a feeling it was carb but never noticed I went to bigger carb in the process. Additionally, I gave up a year ago. It wasn't until I tried the same carb on my cub cadet which I knew too had carb issues. Imagine my frustration when I couldnt get it to run right either. Oh, and noticing it being a 30 carb and it being my stupidity, on two engines no less... Really frustrated me lol.
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