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Posted August 26, 2013 - 08:07 PM

I know a bunch of you guys are going to be there, and I know some of you know Kohlers well, as I am still learning. Anyway, I got one k301 on a tractor that seems to be kicking my butt. I swapped on a new carb, new spark plug, a new condenser, new this and that (most I had laying around) and I still can't get the tractor to run right. It acts like fuel because if you try to idle it up, it sputters and dies no matter how you set the carb. It will run great at idle for a while and then you find yourself screwing with the carb again to keep it running. And the carb is new. So I need help, as a last ditch effort I checked the points, but they seemed to be in spec. Help me, by the way, most wol know the tractor as the 1967 Toro 12 hp I bought last year on my way to cochranton plow day.
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Posted August 26, 2013 - 08:22 PM

Just a thought here but are you using a fuel pump for this motor? If so it may not be getting enough fuel for it. Also is the carb for the 301 and not a bigger motor as it may be to big for the motor. One last thing I would check is the valve adjustment.


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Posted August 26, 2013 - 08:26 PM

Just a thought here but are you using a fuel pump for this motor? If so it may not be getting enough fuel for it. Also is the carb for the 301 and not a bigger motor as it may be to big for the motor. One last thing I would check is the valve adjustment.

 

 

I agree with Bob on all counts.  One easier way to check for fuel delivery problems is to temporarily use a small fuel tank elevated well above the carb so you can use gravity flow direct to the carb, bypassing the pump.  If she runs well this way, then look at lines & fuel pump.


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Posted August 26, 2013 - 08:26 PM

It is a mechanical diaphragm fuel pump for the kohler. I thought about it, swapped it, still thinking the swapped one is no better. I am prettier certain the carb is the correct size carb for it. I'm wondering about just pulling the fuel pump and going electric fuel pump and try tht, not sure yet. I know the original pump was pumping, so should go ack to it. I dunno, I got irritated cause I let it sit to long and no it needs more effort to get it to even start.

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Posted August 26, 2013 - 08:28 PM

With this new danged fuel mix, the carb can become a mess inside in a short time of sitting.  You might ought to drop the bowl & see what it looks like now.



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Posted August 26, 2013 - 08:29 PM

What does everyone set the points gap to. I read the book says .020, but others I have read say as low as .016. I set it to .017 for now, but might bump it back up. It used to run lol.

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Posted August 26, 2013 - 08:31 PM

What does everyone set the points gap to. I read the book says .020, but others I have read say as low as .016. I set it to .017 for now, but might bump it back up. It used to run lol

 

Most of mine ended up around .018


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Posted August 26, 2013 - 08:31 PM

I'm afraid I may have to drop the bowl and inspect it, even though I use gum out in my fuel all the time. I do think I have to get a battery on it, trying to start it with just the jump pack hooked on sucks, even knowing it all works.

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Posted August 26, 2013 - 08:31 PM

Change the condensor again.  I've seen them run at idle ok but try to rev it up and it acts like it runs out of fuel. 


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Posted August 26, 2013 - 08:33 PM

The condenser was the very first thing I replaced when I started to fix it last year, could I have a bad condenser anyhow??

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Posted August 26, 2013 - 08:35 PM

The condenser was the very first thing I replaced when I started to fix it last year, could I have a bad condenser anyhow??

 

Sure can.  I've bought more than one bad electrical component that was bad right out of the box.


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Posted August 26, 2013 - 08:37 PM

That was a special long wired condenser too lol. Had to make the parts guy open about 10 boxes lol

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Posted August 26, 2013 - 08:40 PM

You said the carb is new. Is it a new aftermarket?



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Posted August 26, 2013 - 08:41 PM

It is not the original carter model n, but designed identical to it, can't remember brand but going out there to look now.

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Posted August 26, 2013 - 08:44 PM

I'm afraid I may have to drop the bowl and inspect it, even though I use gum out in my fuel all the time. I do think I have to get a battery on it, trying to start it with just the jump pack hooked on sucks, even knowing it all works.

Holy crum, first thing drop the bowl and remove the float needle and squirt it with carb cleaner, it just takes a spec of dirt up there to hurt you, the kit is about 12.00. Have you inspected the points to see if they are burnt or fried, sanded them? Spray some wd40 around the head and see, if could have a gasket leak. If it can happen it's happened to one of here at least once or twice, Good Luck






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