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#16 BairleaFarm OFFLINE  

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Posted August 22, 2013 - 04:34 PM

Something else to think about...Will the 1650 hydro have enough flow to handle power steering?

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Posted August 25, 2013 - 02:23 PM

Picked it up today and despite having several small holes from lights and such its in great shape. I think im.going to put the 18 hp engine in this. Its in such great shape and has external brakes so I forsee steer brakes at some point. If the engine fits well ill be swapping over the power steering.

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Posted August 25, 2013 - 04:33 PM

I would keep it simple and put the 12hp K series in it and call it a 1250 and be good.  Should be next to no engineering involved and it will easily handle a 44inch deck in most grass and a 36 inch snowthrower or any other attachment.


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Posted August 25, 2013 - 05:42 PM

David, if it isn't kept simple, you may not get to plow come September.  Just sayin......


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Posted August 25, 2013 - 06:08 PM

I havent missed a plowday in 5 years. I could have this driving in a day with the 18hp.

My 12 doesnt have the right oil pan.

The side shields are the biggest issue and im not worried about them at rhis time. I think ill take some measurement and see what I can come up with as far as the oil pan is concerned. 12hp for plowing doesn't tickle my fancy at all.

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Posted August 26, 2013 - 08:18 AM

The sheet metal looks pretty good... and brown steering wheel wrap FTW!!!

 

So it has no engine at all right now?



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Posted August 26, 2013 - 09:34 AM

Correct.. no engine

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Posted August 26, 2013 - 04:00 PM

I havent missed a plowday in 5 years. I could have this driving in a day with the 18hp.

My 12 doesnt have the right oil pan.

The side shields are the biggest issue and im not worried about them at rhis time. I think ill take some measurement and see what I can come up with as far as the oil pan is concerned. 12hp for plowing doesn't tickle my fancy at all.

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I would say before you go tearing into everything and you have nothing to use to answer yourself a few questions first.

 

Will the oil pan from the 18hp work on the 1650 frame? 

If not what needs modified and will it be complex to do it?

Is the engine cradle with the 1650 or was it taken out with the engine?  They will not bolt into it without it as they did NOT sit directly on the framerails on those.

Does the 18 have the correct coupler on it to put it into the 1650?

Do you need to rewire the 1650 or is the wiring good?

If the wiring is good how will the charging system from the 18hp work on the 1650?  In other words can you make it plug and play or will it need adapted?

How will your throttle and choke controls hook up?

 

Many things to think about and plan before just pulling it out of one and trying to get it into another.  It took me two weeks to swap the Kohler into my MF12 from a Tecumseh and that was an easier frame to work with than a Cub frame.  (no side clearance issues)

 

A question I would ask is what is wrong with 12hp for plowing?  I use a 10hp hydro for both snowplowing and for moldboard plowing (my 107) and it has MORE than enough snot to do the job.  I also have a 12hp hydro (my MF12h) and it works well with NO problems handling either chore.  I also use both for snowblower duty with no issues either.  10 or 12hp will easily do those jobs.


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Posted August 26, 2013 - 04:20 PM

I was thinking about removing the cradle and sitting the 18hp on the frame.  I have to room(haven't messed with figuring side shields yet) Ill Use the rag joint on the 18hp end and on the hydro end.  The commands cranks is a little taller than the k series so The height less the cradle should be ok. I will use the 1250 rear part of the drive shaft and the 3186 engine side of the drive shaft.

 

There is no wiring on the 1650.  The harness and all charging components are on the 18hp so un screw the ignition switch and battery cables and everything will move over.  The throttle and choke cable off the home brew tractor ive got will fit the 1250 cub.

 

I wont switch the power steering over not just the engine.  There are also no hydraulics on the 1250.  I have a 3 spool valve off a jd and several different cylinders.  One for the mid and one for the sleeve hitch.


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Posted August 28, 2013 - 05:56 AM

Has anyone put a flat bottomed kohler in a cub? I wonder if the mounting holes will line up our if the crank height would be the same. The kohler I've got its from a wheel horse.

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Posted August 28, 2013 - 08:09 AM

Has anyone put a flat bottomed kohler in a cub? I wonder if the mounting holes will line up our if the crank height would be the same. The kohler I've got its from a wheel horse.

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If you are talking about a normal wide footed oil pan, then no, the crank height will be higher on those.  



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Posted August 31, 2013 - 08:37 AM

Ive decided to make the 12hp kohler work without swapping oil pans. Hopefully if I remove the cradle my crank height well be doable. I stopped at a couple places this morning for some parts.

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Posted August 31, 2013 - 09:53 AM

Step two...pressure wash years on grease and push them in the barn. The engine I'll be using. It's from a wheelhorse raider 12.

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Posted August 31, 2013 - 10:08 AM

What for tractor is that hiding in there behind the Rotary mower?  Can only make out what looks to be a 4 post rops rollbar.  IH or MF?



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Posted August 31, 2013 - 10:31 AM

those are twin ih. I like open tractors so I use the 986 and my brother likes ac so he uses the 1086

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