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#16 KennyP ONLINE  

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Posted August 25, 2013 - 05:33 PM

Start charging by the hour and Seafoam will get cheaper...


Is the fuel filter a clear one?

Yep! And a new one to boot. With the choke out, it will run fine. Then it just dies. You can start it back up right away.



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Posted August 25, 2013 - 05:37 PM

Just dies, instant restart?
You bought an inline spark checker didnt you?

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Posted August 25, 2013 - 07:39 PM

I'm wondering if you don't have a bad elect. connection or a chafed wire grounding out some where?



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Posted August 26, 2013 - 05:00 AM

I'm not ruling out anything at the moment, but it acts more like fuel starvation. Bad fuel pump, cracked intake, crud in the bowl. When it dies, it is not like you turned the key off. Takes a bit before it will finally die, but will restart right away. When warmed up, will only run on full choke. If it were electrical, I would think it would die and not restart.

I'm going to drain the tank this evening and see what comes out. Then see how hard it is to pull the carb to see what's in the bowl.



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Posted August 26, 2013 - 05:17 AM

I think you are on the right track, the choke shouldn't make a difference if it were an electrical issue.



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Posted August 26, 2013 - 05:41 AM

Kenny is the new fuel filter on the suction or pressure side of the fuel pump ? Could he have put the wrong type in place or wrong location he there wasn't one there before . I put a filterused  for a pressure ( fuel pump )  side on the Tri-Trac ( gravity feed )  and it would fill but not enough flow to make it run correctly at WOT .


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Posted August 26, 2013 - 05:54 AM

Fuel filter is on the suction side. I haven't seen one like it before, but looks to be where the old one was. May swap it out for one I have to see what happens. Thanks for the info!



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Posted August 26, 2013 - 06:36 AM

Mike it's an intermittent issue, Normally after it has ran for a while, but happened once just after he started it. I chatted some more with him this morning about it. I'm pretty sure it's a fuel issue. Could be something in the tank clogging the line. It's a 2006 mower. I'm planning to use it some today and see if it shows up.

Does this carb have a wire on the bottom of the bowl?



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Posted August 26, 2013 - 06:40 AM

Does this carb have a wire on the bottom of the bowl?

Yes! He took that solenoid off and had it checked out. Supposedly, it is working okay.


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Posted August 26, 2013 - 06:58 AM

I'm not ruling out anything at the moment, but it acts more like fuel starvation. Bad fuel pump, cracked intake, crud in the bowl. When it dies, it is not like you turned the key off. Takes a bit before it will finally die, but will restart right away. When warmed up, will only run on full choke. If it were electrical, I would think it would die and not restart.
I'm going to drain the tank this evening and see what comes out. Then see how hard it is to pull the carb to see what's in the bowl.


I agree it sounds fuel, but if the spark is borderline weak when this happens, making it richer should help? Just trying to think outside the box.
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Posted August 26, 2013 - 06:24 PM

Thanks, Alan! I didn't get to play with it tonight. Long day at work (a whole 8 hrs!), so I'm tired! Plus it's hot out there!



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Posted August 27, 2013 - 10:48 AM

i had the same problem with my JD l120  turns out the gas cap wasnt equalizing pressure in the tank.  I drilled a little larger hole and it cleaned out the built up dirt and the tractor ran great.  It was doing all the same things as you describe.


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Posted August 27, 2013 - 03:13 PM

I would be checking for cracks by spraying some carb cleaner around manifold/carb to see/hear any difference in motor rpm's while running. As far as it only happens when hot, as the motor gets hotter metal and even plastic will expand, letting air to be pulled in, and closing choke is just helping with the air/fuel ratio so it runs "normal". 


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Posted August 27, 2013 - 03:16 PM

i had the same problem with my JD l120  turns out the gas cap wasnt equalizing pressure in the tank.  I drilled a little larger hole and it cleaned out the built up dirt and the tractor ran great.  It was doing all the same things as you describe.

Yep, seen this many times too, but usually doesn't matter if it's hot or cold, just causes a vacuum to be pulled in tank ie: run out of fuel to carb


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Posted August 27, 2013 - 04:18 PM

I would be checking for cracks by spraying some carb cleaner around manifold/carb to see/hear any difference in motor rpm's while running. As far as it only happens when hot, as the motor gets hotter metal and even plastic will expand, letting air to be pulled in, and closing choke is just helping with the air/fuel ratio so it runs "normal". 

Thats why I thought it might be a crack in the plastic manifold, they have had a real problem with those manifolds


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