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#16 Pudycatz OFFLINE  

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Posted August 19, 2013 - 06:44 PM

 

It would help to know if you have any personal attachment to a particular tractor brand. Maybe something your dad used to have.

 

No personal favorites, Seems like what I see most for sale  in these parts are W.H., Cub Cadets and Sears SS. Thanks for post.


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Posted August 19, 2013 - 06:54 PM

You can take my Wheel Horse 857 and restore this winter. Take your time, but I need it back next spring. Kidding aside, lots of great advise here. What will you use the the tractor for when it's done ?

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Posted August 19, 2013 - 07:04 PM

 What will you use the the tractor for when it's done ?

Probably just to ride over to neighbors and back. With it being my first restoration i'll be hesitant to do anything else.


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Posted August 19, 2013 - 07:11 PM

Probably just to ride over to neighbors and back. If I invest my time to restore and it comes out satisfactory I wont work it.

So that opens you up to all sorts of fun things
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Posted August 19, 2013 - 07:19 PM

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To much for a first time project? Price seems ok..... asking $175.00


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Posted August 19, 2013 - 07:38 PM

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To much for a first time project? Price seems ok..... asking $175.00

Anything tecumseh, verify spark before you buy IMHO
Lets assume no spark... Another $150 in that (barring any other engine issues) and then there are other issues (what kinda lift is that? Where's the fender?)

On the upside, if the plow is included, that's worth $100+ in usable condition in many places
On the downside, it's a hydro and those are $$$ repair jobs... And rarer too.

All things considered, it would be worthy of restoration (and those are nice colors too :D)
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Posted August 19, 2013 - 07:43 PM

I'd vote for the wheelhorse. That's a 1966 or 1967 856 or 857 short wheel base standard geared transmission with a plow. And it has a kohler in it. That's a cast iron machine and simple. My next pick would be any gear driven Cub Cadet before the ones with four numbers. The sears? Not so much.

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Posted August 19, 2013 - 07:54 PM

OK, he asked for a, what I believe to be, an easy, get my feet wet, restoration with plenty of parts available at a reasonable price. You don't tell a newbie to jump into hydraulics, belts, tensioner's and a myriad of other distractions at the gitgo.. A nice simple tractor that, in the future, with acquired restoration experience he can start adding all the accessories. To me, and I own a bunch of different brands, A cub cadet, shaft driven would be right up his alley. Sure an early Wheel horse would almost be as good.

Kind of why I suggested the Wizard very simple basic tractor that shared a lot of parts with other GTs of the era, and it was unusual. Many older store brand tractors shared a lot of parts and varied mainly in sheet metal.  I checked craigslist postings in several areas of the posters state of Tennessee, and MY GOSH, the prices for old GTs was incredible, 1000-2000 for worn out hunks, their nuts. It would be cheaper to drive to Kentucky


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Posted August 19, 2013 - 07:56 PM

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To much for a first time project? Price seems ok..... asking $175.00

I saw that little Sears on Memphis CL pretty good price, you really have to go and look it over, try to be discriminating and find one that seems mechanically sound


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Posted August 19, 2013 - 07:58 PM

You have been given a lot of great info. I say take you time and look at CraigsList and Evelbay and find a brand and model that really looks cool to you. In your part of the world, there is every brand and model for sale within 150 miles of you. Their all good models, so it's really up to you and your wallet.


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Posted August 19, 2013 - 08:02 PM

I would go for a first timer either the wheelhorse 753 or the 854 the reason being is there are plenty of parts out there and you cant go wrong with the 7 or 8hp kohler, they are bullet proof, and very simple to work on. If its your first time painting there is a couple of small parts to learn on before you tackle the hood. If you take your time you can have it done in 3/4 months no problem.
The very early cubs ( pre 65) are a good choice but more complicated to work on but still a simple machine, and parts are available.
I've restored a few in my time and by far the early WH was easiest by far.
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Posted August 19, 2013 - 08:08 PM

 I checked craigslist postings in several areas of the posters state of Tennessee, and MY GOSH, the prices for old GTs was incredible, 1000-2000 for worn out hunks, their nuts. It would be cheaper to drive to Kentucky

Agreed


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Posted August 19, 2013 - 10:40 PM

I've messed with many and feel the Wheelhorse is easier to work on and parts fit between many models and shows always have parts fot them. I'm from IN which is home of Horse, maybe not so popular down your way?  John Deere and IH or Cub Cadet are nationwide and at all the swap meets and shows, but run more money. Kohler engines are tougher, the Briggs, some Tecumsa  are hard to find parts for. Case is another easy to fix and find brand, many parts interchange again on those models. 

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Posted August 19, 2013 - 10:44 PM

Agreed

I gravitated to the models that I thought were tough and pretty, with very low prduction numbers, Like the Massey MF14/16s, and Allis 416, BUT you better get a good one or have a parts tractor, cause it will get expensive otherwise



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Posted August 20, 2013 - 09:01 AM

Personally, since it's your first restoration, I think I'd start out on something small, like an older push mower or maybe even a 2 wheeled David Bradley. I see so many guys wanting to get their feet wet by starting a full blown restoration, but after getting the project apart, and seeing all of the misceallaneous pieces and parts, their mind is blown, and they loose interest, thus not completing the project. Start with something small on the first one, just to see if you are going to like prepping and painting. It's a lot of hard work, time and patience. If it works out that you enjoyed it and want something more, then sell the project that you finished, and use that money to buy something bigger. I'd just hate to see you sink a lot of money into buying something that may not keep your interest.

 

Whatever you decide to get, I highly recommend that you find a parts manual, and an owners manual for it. Take the time to sit down and read either one or both, from cover to cover, at least twice. Do this before you disassemble your first part. This will aid you in determining what part effect the other, and will ease your time in reassembly.

 

Good Luck to you, and we hope you do well. Please post pictures of before, during, and after, so that we can follow along with you, and help you out if needed.


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