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#1 Tractor Chance OFFLINE  

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Posted August 16, 2013 - 02:03 PM

Hello everyone.

 

Sadly, this is probably going to be my first post of many, asking for help to get my tractor running again.

 

I have a 1975 Ford LGT 165.

 

I clean her up and am trying to get her running again.

 

First issue.... I rewired everything to match what it was when I got her.  I flipped the main power, put her in Neutral, and twisted the ignition switch.  The starter engaged, hit the fly wheel, turned the engine a bit.  I let go of the ignition too soon.  Now the starter is doing nothing.

 

Here are the facts

1 - starter is making no noise

2 - battery has charger attached and it says battery is fine

3 - solenoid is clicking when I turn the ignition switch.  it is a loud and distinct click.

 

that's what I know.  Any help or advise is appreciated.

 

TC 


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Posted August 16, 2013 - 02:34 PM

It sounds like your starter bendix is stuck to the flywheel. With the ignition off, try turning the engine by hand. That should free up the bendix gear. You may need to take off the flywheel housing to inspect the ring gear and bendix. Also check that the starter bolts are tight. Good Luck, Rick

 

BTW if you take the housing off, please post pics of the bendix.


Edited by boyscout862, August 16, 2013 - 02:39 PM.

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Posted August 16, 2013 - 03:01 PM

you were right.  When I turned the crankshaft by hand, the start "popped".  I'm assuming it was the spring loaded "thing".  I can turn the engine by hand, only about 3/4 of a turn.  I'm sure that's normal.

 

When I try to start, I get rapid firing from the solenoid and the wire between the solenoid and the starter is actually moving.  I'm assuming that this is from the electricity flying through the wire.

 

BTW - is the bendix the "thing"on the starter the engages the fly wheel?



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Posted August 16, 2013 - 04:29 PM


 

BTW - is the bendix the "thing"on the starter the engages the fly wheel?

Yep.


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Posted August 16, 2013 - 04:30 PM

  I can turn the engine by hand, only about 3/4 of a turn.  I'm sure that's normal.

 

You can turn it all the way,it just goes hard on the compression stroke.


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Posted August 16, 2013 - 06:00 PM

Hello everyone.

 

Sadly, this is probably going to be my first post of many, asking for help to get my tractor running again.

 

I have a 1975 Ford LGT 165.

 

I clean her up and am trying to get her running again.

 

First issue.... I rewired everything to match what it was when I got her.  I flipped the main power, put her in Neutral, and twisted the ignition switch.  The starter engaged, hit the fly wheel, turned the engine a bit.  I let go of the ignition too soon.  Now the starter is doing nothing.

 

Here are the facts

1 - starter is making no noise

2 - battery has charger attached and it says battery is fine

3 - solenoid is clicking when I turn the ignition switch.  it is a loud and distinct click.

 

that's what I know.  Any help or advise is appreciated.

 

TC 

Check the grounds! That might be an issue. One ground on the battery and another on the engine to frame!


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Posted August 16, 2013 - 06:53 PM

Kenny is right make sure your grounds are nice and tight and no corrosion.


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Posted August 16, 2013 - 07:13 PM

Kenny is right make sure your grounds are nice and tight and no corrosion.


This also applies to the main battery leads as well.

Corrosion and loose connections waste current as heat,
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Posted August 16, 2013 - 07:48 PM

you were right.  When I turned the crankshaft by hand, the start "popped".  I'm assuming it was the spring loaded "thing".  I can turn the engine by hand, only about 3/4 of a turn.  I'm sure that's normal.
 
When I try to start, I get rapid firing from the solenoid and the wire between the solenoid and the starter is actually moving.  I'm assuming that this is from the electricity flying through the wire.
 
BTW - is the bendix the "thing"on the starter the engages the fly wheel?


The only time I've seen a solenoid rapid fire is when there is low battery voltage or a bad solenoid. You can run a booster cable to from the positive post on the battery to the starter post to detect a bad solenoid. If the starter engages and spins the engine over its the solenoid.
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Posted August 17, 2013 - 06:06 AM

One safety tip. When you work on a battery always remove the ground (-) wire before you work on the (+) wire and reconnect the (+) wire first. That helps prevent accidental shorts with the wrench. Good Luck, Rick


Edited by boyscout862, August 17, 2013 - 06:07 AM.

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Posted August 22, 2013 - 01:23 PM

My '75 145 will rapid fire like that. The neutral safety switch is getting bad on it. I find I sometimes have to hold the hydro lever towards the switch a bit and it cures the rapid fire issue

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Posted August 29, 2013 - 07:31 PM

ISSUE FIXED

 

There is a positive wire from the battery.  It connects to the starter, using a small threaded bolt.  The bolt had a nylon washer at the bottom of the threaded bolt.  I forgot to put that on.  Once I put it on, everything worked great.


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Posted August 29, 2013 - 09:23 PM

Thanks for the update and glad you got it fixed.



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Posted August 29, 2013 - 11:07 PM

Thanks for the update, and the resolution, sadly missed on this and many sites !


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