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Posted August 13, 2013 - 05:40 AM

Maybe if you use a big enough pump on your PK dump build you could use it to dump the bed plus outlets for the splitter , snow plows ect . Once you have a hyd power source theres all sorts to thing you'll come up with .


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Posted August 13, 2013 - 12:36 PM

Here is a picture of the hydraulic reservoir.

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I know somebody who worked for both Caterpillar and John Deere as a high ranking mechanic, and hydraulics where his specialty; I will ask him what he thinks of this pump, he will be able to tell me what I need, and if this pump will work and how well.


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Posted August 13, 2013 - 01:00 PM

That way you will have one less engine sitting around for months at a time.

Very good point... it's a battle between saving time from changing over implements and saving time and money on engine upkeep.



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Posted August 13, 2013 - 03:50 PM

Very good point... it's a battle between saving time from changing over implements and saving time and money on engine upkeep.

that is a very good point. one to ponder



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Posted August 13, 2013 - 05:03 PM

Ryan since you will probably have more HP then you need to drive the pump you may be able to run the motor at a lower speed.  Running at 26-2800 would save a lot on fuel if you still have the HP available to run the pump at that RPM. 


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Posted August 13, 2013 - 06:17 PM

Ryan since you will probably have more HP then you need to drive the pump you may be able to run the motor at a lower speed.  Running at 26-2800 would save a lot on fuel if you still have the HP available to run the pump at that RPM. 

Really, Kohlers are made to run WOT (wide open throttle). Running any engine/motor under a lugging condition is detrimental to it's longevity. Besides, what are you going to save in a day a dollar two ninety eight.



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Posted August 13, 2013 - 08:45 PM

Maybe if you use a big enough pump on your PK dump build you could use it to dump the bed plus outlets for the splitter , snow plows ect . Once you have a hyd power source theres all sorts to thing you'll come up with .

 

Very good point... it's a battle between saving time from changing over implements and saving time and money on engine upkeep.

 

 

Ryan since you will probably have more HP then you need to drive the pump you may be able to run the motor at a lower speed.  Running at 26-2800 would save a lot on fuel if you still have the HP available to run the pump at that RPM. 

 

This morning, I was undecided as to what I was going to do, after reading these posts, I think you guys helped me make up my mind!



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Posted August 20, 2013 - 01:20 PM

I have been very busy, and was not able to update this, but I got the engine taken off a few days ago! It was not very difficult, since it was not bolted down. :smilewink:

 

I also got the wire harness, exhaust, and a couple other things off.

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Posted October 14, 2013 - 07:45 PM

It has been a while since I last updated this, but that is primarily because I have not done much with it until recently!

 

About 2 weeks ago, I found a set of tires, and got them mounted. I also painted the wheels while I had them off.

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I was having a VERY hard time finding a pulley for the pump on this! After a while I gave up and just bought the wrong one from tractor supply, and modified it. Originally, it had a 1/2" hole, and I had to drill it out to 9/16" so it would fit the shaft. Once it fit over the shaft, I had to cut a groove into it for the key way; in the picture it looks like it is not that tight around the key way,  but that corner is rounded over a bit, so it looks loose.

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The next order of business, was mounting the pump! I wanted to be able to take the pump off, and mount it onto any power king, and this is what I came up with. One side bolts to the frame, and the other side bolts to the bell housing. This holds the pump underneath of the tractor, and the pump will drive off of the rear flywheel.

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The trickiest part of this build, connecting the pump to the reservoir, and valve; this is not difficult on a normal splitter, but on this they are about 12-14 feet apart! The reason for this is because the reservoir and valve are at the back of the splitter, and the pump is going on almost the front of the tractor. My solution, is to use black pipe. In the picture below, is the pressure line to the valve. To make it easier to understand, I will explain it backwards. There is an 18" hose coming out of the valve, which then goes into a piece of black pipe which runs the length of the splitter.

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On the other end of the pipe, will be another hose that stops at the back of the tractor, there will be a quick coupler that connects that hose to a different hose which will then go to the pump. I had to cut the pipe to the correct length, and that means that only one side has threads. Instead of threading the other end, I am just going to weld the elbow on the end of the pipe. Before I can do that, I need to get more shielding gas though.F77821FB-75FA-41A9-9871-778696949E77-392

 

The supply line, which goes between the reservoir and pump will be the same concept as the pressure line, so no sense in repeating myself.


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Posted October 14, 2013 - 08:35 PM

Ryan is the black pipe you got strong enough for the pressure side of the pump ?



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Posted October 14, 2013 - 08:56 PM

Ryan is the black pipe you got strong enough for the pressure side of the pump ?


Personally, I do not know the bursting pressure if the pipe. However, it was my hydraulic guru of a friend who said I should do it this way. He has used normal black pipe on all kinds of equipment, so I am sure that if it would not work, he would know by now.
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Posted October 15, 2013 - 06:23 AM

Personally, I do not know the bursting pressure if the pipe. However, it was my hydraulic guru of a friend who said I should do it this way. He has used normal black pipe on all kinds of equipment, so I am sure that if it would not work, he would know by now.

 

Normal off the shelf black pipe usually has a rating of 150PSI to 300PSI

 

If it is on the return side it would be fine.  On the pressure side....I wouldn't do it....

 

At least not schedule 40 black pipe.

 

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The pipe fittings they sell here are rated in the 1000s.  Not terrible prices either, but it would probably be easier to use a hose and 90s.


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Posted October 15, 2013 - 08:10 PM

You're making good progress. I like the way you designed the pump bracket to be easily removable. I have no clue about what type of pipe to use so I will be watching this so I can I have an idea of what to do when I start to rebuild my logsplitter.






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