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Posted August 12, 2013 - 06:01 PM

 Kenny can't you step up to the next bigger thread and just re-tap that rascle ? Say 8mm stripped out to a 3/8 -16 ?



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Posted August 12, 2013 - 06:14 PM

 Kenny can't you step up to the next bigger thread and just re-tap that rascle ? Say 8mm stripped out to a 3/8 -16 ?

Challenge is there is no room to get in there, not even for a tap!

 

I just went out and measured. From the front of that boss to the fan shroud is 2-3/16". My 3/8"X16 tap is 2-3/4" long. won't fit! Fan shroud won't come out with the fan shaft in place.



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Posted August 12, 2013 - 06:34 PM

 DOH!!!!


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Posted August 12, 2013 - 06:34 PM

Kenny, I can't see from the pic if this would work or not...
Way back in the day, I had a Volvo 144. Miserable pita to work on the alternator. It had a place like that and they designed it so it was almost impossible to use a wrench on it without pulling the rad support. Anyways, we drilled and tapped two setscrew spots in there and put in a stud with dimples. Tightened the setscrews, then tightened the nut on the stud. MUCH easier to get the alt out...

I only mention it in case you run out of other options... Get you out of a bind maybe?
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Posted August 12, 2013 - 07:03 PM

If it were only the alternator, I would find a different way. But I need the second support for the fan shaft going over the engine. There are no other mounting bolts available!



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Posted August 12, 2013 - 07:08 PM

I have cut the shafts shorter on taps for such times.  I just grind a new square end on them, then use a crescent wrench to do the tapping.  With a crescent ya gotta be darned careful to keep pressure centered or you can break off the tap.


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Posted August 12, 2013 - 07:36 PM

My concern is I have no idea at the moment what size this hole is. A 5/16" coarse thread bolt just slides in and out. A 3/8" won't start in it. Haven't a clue if it's supposed to be metric or what!



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Posted August 12, 2013 - 07:57 PM

Maybe a M8x1.25? It'd be a little bigger than a 5/16... Smaller than 3/8. They do make a 9mm bolt, but it's nearly unused anywhere I've ever seen.

How about the other bolts othe machine in this area, are they metric? What stampings on the heads?

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Posted August 12, 2013 - 08:12 PM

 If a 5/16 bolt slips in then it's the perfect size for a 3/8-16 thread. Dang ! It would be trying what ever I could to get a tap in there?



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Posted August 12, 2013 - 09:13 PM

 If a 5/16 bolt slips in then it's the perfect size for a 3/8-16 thread. 

 

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Posted August 12, 2013 - 10:22 PM

I asked the neighbor across the street if he knew of any zero-turns around. Said his SIL had one sitting in the back of his property. Went and looked at it, couldn't find any spark plugs in the engine. Anyway we struck a deal and I am now the proud owner of this:

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I have gotten it to turn over, drained the old fuel. Tomorrow, I'll get new fuel. What else do I need to do to get it started. It seem the glow plugs are working and the owner said they had to be used when it was started for the first time each day. It has 5408 hours on the clock and is a Mitsubishi diesel. I think around 25 HP. Has good antifreeze in the radiator, but the water pump is a bit hard to turn. I thought the alternator was froze up, but I guess the belt was just stuck to the pullies. I will need the adjustment bracket for it, that is broken.

 

Great Haul, Kenny!!!  I think the engine is a Mitsubishi K3E, or something like that... Plus a lot of usable parts if you don't want it for a ZT mower.

 

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Posted August 12, 2013 - 10:38 PM

Yeah, I'm a bit worried about that too! Not sure when the fan will get here & I'm painting a house all week. We're down to 2 mowers since the Ford quit. Takes a full day with them to mow the place!

Use the bolt hub for a pattern and put a junkyard fan off a Geo, etc on it.

 

Smitty

 

PS  I have a guy holding a Toro 223 D for me--little brother to your machine but still with a 20 hp Mitsi diesel... has water in the oil... and hasn't run for a while.  Hopefully it's just a head gasket...


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Posted August 12, 2013 - 10:44 PM

Guess you missed the posting on that one! It doesn't have an engine, but still has most of the original wiring. Great candidate for a diesel!

 

Guess you missed the posting on that one! It doesn't have an engine, but still has most of the original wiring. Great candidate for a diesel!

 

Kenny

 

The diesel in your machine is about 350 lbs.  You might look for a Mitsi L3E diesel--3 cylinder, 20 hp, and only 185 lbs... THAT would be a good candidate for your FF.... and yes, I'm jealous... but glad you got a great deal...

 

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Posted August 13, 2013 - 05:41 AM

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The diesel in your machine is about 350 lbs.  You might look for a Mitsi L3E diesel--3 cylinder, 20 hp, and only 185 lbs... THAT would be a good candidate for your FF.... and yes, I'm jealous... but glad you got a great deal...

 

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The manual says the engine weights 273 lbs. A bit heavy for a GT. Not sure yet if this is 23 or 25 HP.



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Posted August 13, 2013 - 05:45 AM

 If a 5/16 bolt slips in then it's the perfect size for a 3/8-16 thread. Dang ! It would be trying what ever I could to get a tap in there?

 

 

:ditto:

If it was a straight shot, might get the 3/8 tap to go.

 

Maybe a M8x1.25? It'd be a little bigger than a 5/16... Smaller than 3/8. They do make a 9mm bolt, but it's nearly unused anywhere I've ever seen.

How about the other bolts othe machine in this area, are they metric? What stampings on the heads?

I'll see if I can find one and try that, Alan. I think most are metric, but I used a 5/16" on the RH support.






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