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#16 Short_Circuit OFFLINE  

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Posted July 27, 2013 - 06:34 AM

Man, finding the original engine is a plus. I wonder why they took it out? Wheels went bad and they saved the engine for another project? Who knows, but :thumbs: so far!

All I know is dad was always tinkering and "redesigning" things. I see this in my son. He can take a card board box and duct tape and make all sorts of things. He does things with legos and has great imagination. I guess he gets it from my dad which is who we named him after and why we call him "little Charlie". Anyway, the engine was mounted on a piece of wood. Not quite sure what he was making out of that....BTW I am not letting my son near me while I am welding and sandblasting. I let him come look but he knows it dangerous at this point. He is the job foreman I guess. He says that when we get it done, he will let me use it if my lawn mower breaks down.


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Posted July 27, 2013 - 06:40 AM

Great father and son project! Looking good!   36_1_11.gif

 

The engine that you have found is a replacement engine. It's four to five years newer than the tractor. The original engine would have been painted black, with model number 130902 and type number 0173-01 for the rewind starter model. The electric start engines were model number 130905 and type number 0252-01.

Thanks and thanks for the info. I am going to see if mom can find any pics but she swears that is the engine that came off it.  I think it has always been on this tractor since in my family. Thats the reason I stated that it was the original engine. I apologize for that. Again, I know you are correct but just trying to find all the pieces that used to be with it when was running for him. 


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Posted July 27, 2013 - 02:20 PM

Here are some color reference pics.

 

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Posted July 28, 2013 - 10:10 AM

Here are some color reference pics.

 

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Thanks for the pics!! Charlie likes it! It really helps out and gives us some insight into what we are gonna try to end up with. I have found  that I don't have the engine pulleys. Do you know the diameter of the drive pulley? Thanks again!! Keith and Charlie



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Posted July 28, 2013 - 05:24 PM

  I have found  that I don't have the engine pulleys. Do you know the diameter of the drive pulley? Thanks again!! Keith and Charlie

 

Sorry, I have no idea.  I just searched to find pics for you.  I know someone who has one & will try to find out. (email sent to find out)


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Posted July 29, 2013 - 06:38 AM

I have found  that I don't have the engine pulleys. Do you know the diameter of the drive pulley?

 

The pulley is Simplicity part # 1651566SM. It's listed as 2.88" OD. Cost is over $65 most places.

 

If it were mine, I'd replace it with a 3" OD pulley, like this:

 

https://phoenix-mfg....emid=56&lang=en


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Posted July 29, 2013 - 06:19 PM

Sorry, I have no idea.  I just searched to find pics for you.  I know someone who has one & will try to find out. (email sent to find out)

 

Turns out Jon has been at a show, but Greg (achomesteader) got you all the info you need!


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Posted July 29, 2013 - 10:47 PM

The pulley is Simplicity part # 1651566SM. It's listed as 2.88" OD. Cost is over $65 most places.

 

If it were mine, I'd replace it with a 3" OD pulley, like this:

 

https://phoenix-mfg....emid=56&lang=en

Thanks Greg! I will order one. I am gathering parts and it appears from what I come across that the original pulley was 2.88 and 3.0 should be close enough that I can use the original 1/2" x 72" belt. 



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Posted July 29, 2013 - 11:07 PM

Just wanted to show you where I found the simplicity and how much work it was to get it out! I definately was nervous about snakes! But all went ok.

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 Here is also a couple of pics of how the recoil starter was set up when I found it. Not sure why dad changed it around but I just unbolted it and clocked it back to where it was when it was on the Simplicity. Thanks to achomesteader I see know why it is a replacement engine. It must fit more than one tractor or lawn mower.

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Charlie trying out his "new" tractor!

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Finally, Charlie shows me what the gears are and what they mean!

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Looks like my Massey MF-7 has been put on the back burner til this project gets finished. At least I can mow with it. It may not look pretty but it mows great with the 7 hp Kohler!

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Posted August 01, 2013 - 12:28 PM

Looks like a great father/son project happening here. Keep up the good work!!


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Posted August 05, 2013 - 12:04 PM

I want to ask for some opinions. The engine is a replacement and I am fixing to paint it. Should I paint it black as original or leave it gold. It is not a complete restoration but would like some opinions. Any thoughts. I have thought about leaving it gold. Just want it to look nice and clean.

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Posted August 05, 2013 - 01:03 PM

Very cool!  Your son will never forget this project with Dad.  If you're impartial to the engine color, I'll bet Charlie has an opinion on it ;) I think it looks kinda neat with the gold engine!  Electric start models had a white Briggs, but white sure shows grease and dirt.


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Posted August 05, 2013 - 08:10 PM

Very cool!  Your son will never forget this project with Dad.  If you're impartial to the engine color, I'll bet Charlie has an opinion on it ;) I think it looks kinda neat with the gold engine!  Electric start models had a white Briggs, but white sure shows grease and dirt.

I am kinda partial to the gold for some reason...I kinda like it. 



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Posted August 05, 2013 - 08:28 PM



Very cool!  Your son will never forget this project with Dad.  If you're impartial to the engine color, I'll bet Charlie has an opinion on it ;) I think it looks kinda neat with the gold engine!  Electric start models had a white Briggs, but white sure shows grease and dirt.

We haven't really decided on the engine color but I am kinda partial to the gold engine. Charlie doesn't really know. Anyway, Here are a couple of updated pics. I haven't had a lot of time to work on it for being on call.

 

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 Here we are fixing to start some serious cleaning

 

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Just after some serious pressure washing and cleaning

 

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Don't ask about the front wheel being missing...Dad decided to take it for a ride before tearing it apart and broke it. Guess I'm gonna need some better wheels!

 

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Just a reminder of how ruff this tractor was!! A lot of body work to do!!


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Posted August 05, 2013 - 08:31 PM

I was able to take time to add a flashing light to Charlie's toy tractor!

 

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