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#1 Ryan313 OFFLINE  

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Posted June 28, 2013 - 10:34 AM

On my new to me Jim Dandy, the bottom of the engine shroud hits the part of the frame where the front axle mounts. Since it hits, it is causing a hole to be worn into the bottom of the shroud. Here is a picture, it has already been patched once before by a previous owner.

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You can see here that the bottom of the bearing plate is lower then the mount for the front axle; since the shroud comes down the same distance as the bearing plate, you get an idea of how much it is hitting.

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I think I will have to remove the engine and grind down the mount, but before I do that, if somebody could take a picture like mine that would be great! You do not have to take the shroud off, and any Jim Dandy with the channel frame should show me what I want to see. Thanks!



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Posted June 28, 2013 - 11:26 AM

How about lifting the engine up a bit more..  Is it possible or will it mess up the belts or drive?  Just a thought..


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Posted June 28, 2013 - 12:00 PM

How about lifting the engine up a bit more..  Is it possible or will it mess up the belts or drive?  Just a thought..

Belts?! There are not belts on these tractors! :shoot2:

 

It is shaft driven, but it is possible to rotate the differential on the final drives some; although, there are already 3 shims under the engine, and each one is 1/8" thick and I don't really want to raise it more if I don't have to.



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Posted June 28, 2013 - 01:02 PM

Ryan I,m not home to check but pretty sure mine rubs too but not like yours. Maybe check the front the bushing and axle bolt weld .Maybe worn ,broken weld or welded incorectly
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Posted June 28, 2013 - 02:13 PM

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Here are some pix from my 1965. As you can see the shroud is cut to allow clearance. I don't know if this is stock procedure or not as I have done no research on JD's. Ck out the wooden "suicide" knob.

 

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Posted June 28, 2013 - 02:16 PM

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Here are some pix from my 1965. As you can see the shroud is cut to allow clearance. I don't know if this is stock procedure or not as I have done no research on JD's. Ck out the wooden "suicide" knob.

 

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The frame on yours looks like it is exactly the same as on mine. I would have to cut it open like that, maybe I will cut it out, and weld in a new bottom that is high enough to clear.

 

So, when are you going to start the restoration on that? :D



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Posted June 28, 2013 - 02:18 PM

Ryan I,m not home to check but pretty sure mine rubs too but not like yours. Maybe check the front the bushing and axle bolt weld .Maybe worn ,broken weld or welded incorectly

 

It is not the axle that is hitting, it is the part of the frame right behind the axle. I was thinking it could have been welded wrong, we all know how skilled the welders where who built these tractors...



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Posted June 28, 2013 - 02:30 PM

Ryan you got me thinking ,, my engine is mounted to the frame with angle iron on each and if I remember right it was just one bolt on each side into the frame . I wonder if the PO modified it ?
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Posted June 28, 2013 - 02:41 PM

Ryan you got me thinking ,, my engine is mounted to the frame with angle iron on each and if I remember right it was just one bolt on each side into the frame . I wonder if the PO modified it ?


No, mine is the same way.

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Posted June 28, 2013 - 03:45 PM

I decided  to try cutting out the bottom of the shroud, it already had a hole couldn't hurt anything! You can see that I ground down one spot that was brazed already, I am assuming that a previous owner brazed a crack that was made from rubbing on the frame.

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I then made a patch, and shaped it the best I could to fit. The fit-up is better then it is in this picture, but still not the best.

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I was about to braze it in, when I remembered that I have no oxygen! I could use the MIG to do this, but I have not had good luck at all welding thin sheet metal with it, so I will wait until tomorrow when I can get oxygen and braze it in.


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Posted June 28, 2013 - 05:26 PM

Ryan you got me thinking ,, my engine is mounted to the frame with angle iron on each and if I remember right it was just one bolt on each side into the frame . I wonder if the PO modified it ?

That is how mine is.


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Posted June 30, 2013 - 01:00 PM

Ummm! I don't know JD's, never had one or looked very close for details.....But, is that heavy stock it hits really supposed to be there? Was thinking someone could have beefed frame there and welded in extra metal. Now that someone else has shown about the same, not sure. I take it the engine mounts aren't angles like PK's used and not adjustable?? I'ld vote for raising the mounts if they were, not just engine, but whole mount. Would need to move rear and other components then too, not sure if easy or not.


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Posted June 30, 2013 - 01:33 PM

The frame on yours looks like it is exactly the same as on mine. I would have to cut it open like that, maybe I will cut it out, and weld in a new bottom that is high enough to clear.

 

So, when are you going to start the restoration on that? :D

 

The frame on yours looks like it is exactly the same as on mine. I would have to cut it open like that, maybe I will cut it out, and weld in a new bottom that is high enough to clear.

 

So, when are you going to start the restoration on that? :D

I am working on my Cub Cadet Original right know. After that I am going to bring in my Allis Chalmers 620 and go thru it as it is my favorite user. And in between I am going to start building my new Trailer.

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Posted July 01, 2013 - 08:37 AM

Looked at the JD this morning and laughed at myself ,,  it looks just like Ryans right down to the crack right in the middle  :bigrofl:   guessed I didn't take noticed how it rubbed the shroud so hard .


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Posted July 01, 2013 - 12:33 PM

I finally got oxygen! I thought that I had 2 or 3 brazing rods, but I only had about 3/4 of one! I put vise grips on the end so I could use every last bit, but I ran out with just one corner left! The welds are pretty horrific, since the gap I had to fill was wider then the rod, but once I flatten them with a flap disc you will never know!

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