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#1 Dienerman OFFLINE  

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Posted June 19, 2013 - 03:51 PM

Very noob question, but i just purchased an Ariens with a Kohler Series II engine.  I know that some early Kohler engines had issues with oil starvation and am not aware if this is one of those or not.  Any info or tips on this would be a huge help for me... or at least directed to previous threads that cover this engine.  Thanks!



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Posted June 19, 2013 - 04:00 PM

No, you're good with a series 2. I have the engine with the issues, a series 1 in my JD317. It seems to be running reasonably well with no knocking or smoking even though it has a lot of hours on it. My guess is the PO had a flat property and the tractor wasn't run on slopes where the oil starvation could occur. You can download the service manual from the Kohler site or it may also be in our Manuals section. I can't remember for sure! 



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Posted June 19, 2013 - 04:06 PM

As Brian said, you're good with the Series II motor, it did not have the oil starvation issues you read about.

 

Is it the machine in your avatar? Looks to be in really good shape. :thumbs:



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Posted June 19, 2013 - 04:20 PM

Yes thats my machine.  It is my first GT and I hope a good one.  This could become addicting fast.  I knew nothing about Ariens before my purchase and ALMOST nothing now!  It is a 1981 GT18 which i got for $900.00  I have the bill of sale, all service receipts and all manuals including the repair manual.  I got it from a guy who got it at auction 3 years ago and all the manuals and paperwork came with it.  Everything looks to be in good shape.  It does not bog down or drop RPM under load, no smoke but does surge a bit when warming up.  Any suggestions there?  Looking to learn as much as i can and obviously have a LONG way to go!!



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Posted June 19, 2013 - 05:13 PM

What have you done for maintenance with it so far? Fuel filter, condition of carb, sediment in bowl or the fuel tank, breakdown of a fuel line, condition of the plugs and wires, etc. Even though it does not have the issues of a series one, it still needs tlc to keep humming along.



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Posted June 19, 2013 - 07:29 PM

I have not done anything yet.  I just got it sunday and have it in storage until i move next month.  I plan to do an oil change, air filter, fuel filter , trans fluid change etc.  Perhaps come carb cleaner.  I will address any other obvious issues if i find them.  I did cut the inlaws lawn as soon as i got it, just because i could not resist!  Any ideas of problem areas or specifics that i should look for when i do the general maintenance? 



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Posted June 20, 2013 - 05:49 PM

Shouldn't the GT18 have the 18hp twin, not a KT17??? The 18 was a diff engine and much better made than the KT series. I've had both in Power Kings and KT17's had the one rod out and still ran on other side, hole in block be damned!  The 18 never had an issue.



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Posted June 20, 2013 - 06:04 PM

Shouldn't the GT18 have the 18hp twin, not a KT17??? The 18 was a diff engine and much better made than the KT series. I've had both in Power Kings and KT17's had the one rod out and still ran on other side, hole in block be damned!  The 18 never had an issue.

 

Yes, I would think a GT18 would have a Magnum 18hp in it??



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Posted June 21, 2013 - 02:31 PM

Guess i need to go back and check the serial and model numbers to see exactly what i have!



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Posted June 24, 2013 - 04:27 PM

OK.. so i went to the garage where it is stored and checked the model and serial number.  The model is 931019, so that makes it a 931 series.  The serial number on the engine is 15010145.  Any way to know if that is the original engine?  Is there somewhere i can look up the serial number for the tractor to see exactly what i have?



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Posted June 24, 2013 - 04:30 PM

Also would anyone know if a New Holland ST48 snowthrower will fit this?



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Posted June 24, 2013 - 04:44 PM

Looks like 931019 is a 17hp. A GT17. The model no. to hp chart is at the start of the 931 series service manual. If you don't have that manual I believe it's in the manuals section. 



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Posted June 24, 2013 - 05:03 PM

Looks like 931019 is a 17hp. A GT17. The model no. to hp chart is at the start of the 931 series service manual. If you don't have that manual I believe it's in the manuals section. 

 

That's what I got too, but that engine serial didn't seem to match up to any engine.


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Posted June 24, 2013 - 05:53 PM

I have a service manual which is good.  Im fairly confidant i wrote the serial number for the engine down correctly.  The serial number for the tractor is 068280 I believe, but the 6 could be an 8 perhaps.  I need better light to get a good look at it.



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Posted June 24, 2013 - 07:28 PM

That's what I got too, but that engine serial didn't seem to match up to any engine.

Short block replacement maybe ? Not sure about Kohler but on a Tec the ser. no. is different.






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