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Posted June 14, 2013 - 09:54 AM

It must be an electric but it never shuts off there is no lever like the homelite has which is manual. I dont see anything in the manual on it but i could have missed it. How is it controlled. there is a switch on the dash but the manual says that is for the front pto?

 

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Posted June 14, 2013 - 10:11 AM

Are you talking about the mid PTO? I know the front is electric. I am not completly familiar with the AC of that type but you may have a live (off the Bevel gear box) like my Homelite T-16H. In that case the drive is controlled by the engage / unengage mechanism on the rear tiller, revitalizer. Hope I helped a little. If you could post some pictures it would help. Roger.


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Posted June 14, 2013 - 05:20 PM

It must be an electric but it never shuts off there is no lever like the homelite has which is manual. I dont see anything in the manual on it but i could have missed it. How is it controlled. there is a switch on the dash but the manual says that is for the front pto?

 

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You can PM me and I'll give you my phone number so I can explain it. The 400 series is like know other Allis/Simplicity tractor only built 2 years (actually about 18 months) I have two 416s with all the options


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Posted June 15, 2013 - 09:28 AM

Sent pm, And i will take pics later today as it is over at my inlaws right now. yes the drive at the middle gear box.

 

 

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Posted June 15, 2013 - 07:46 PM

the pulley/s at the bevel gear box never stop while the engine is running. 

the rear implements that run off this pto had a clutch at the implement



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Posted June 15, 2013 - 11:53 PM

Here's a video, Sammie's right the mid mount PTO runs all the time the front PTO is operated by a switch, top left on the dash. The 300 series had manual PTOs like the Simplicity's

 

http://s1197.photobu...html?sort=3&o=0


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Posted June 16, 2013 - 12:31 AM

The 300 deluxe "D" models also had electric front PTO clutch.

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Posted June 16, 2013 - 12:55 AM

The 300 deluxe "D" models also had electric front PTO clutch.

yep, I forgot about the Deluxe models, they had electric lifts and headlights as well, I think



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Posted June 16, 2013 - 04:40 AM

The 300 series hydrostatic "H" models came with the electric front PTO clutch as standard equipment also. Lights were standard on the hydrostatic models too.

 

Of the Deluxe models, only the 314D came with lights as standard equipment. They were optional on the 310D and 312D.  



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Posted June 16, 2013 - 08:11 AM

I think all options on 400 series were dealer installed only. I have to believe Allis knew shortly after the beginning of 400 series production that the federal monopoly lawsuit that made Allis build the plant in SC was going to be overturned, not just for the fact of the dealer installed options, but the fact they halted almost all production on the 414. Allis was committed to use the k341, it was a new engine and kohler would have made companies pre-order those engines, the k321 on the other hand was not.



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Posted June 16, 2013 - 09:46 AM

Thanks, All. I got so busy yesterday working i forgot to call you okie and forgot to take pics. will try today.



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Posted June 17, 2013 - 09:29 PM

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Posted June 18, 2013 - 09:24 AM

I would be interested in finding the parts for the electric lift and how its installed. I sprained my left thumb real bad few months back and can barley push the button on the lift arm.

 

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And in one of the pics you can see the front of a case 711b i may end up with also, we'll see.



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Posted June 19, 2013 - 08:57 PM

when looking for the electric lift be aware... the electric lift itself is unique to the 3/400 series... the simplicity electric lifts (while they look VERY similar) have a different location of mounting pins and are not interchangeable.






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