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#16 JDBrian OFFLINE  

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Posted June 14, 2013 - 05:41 AM

Founds specs/dimensions on the Honda gx340

 

Length (min) 407 mm (16.0")

Width (min) 485 mm (19.1")

Height (min) 449 mm (17.7")

Crank centerline = 133.5 mm (5.26")

 

gx390 is similar http://engine.honda..../specifications

 

 

 

 

Brian, do you have the Kohler info handy?

No, I'm not sure I even have a copy of it. I remember that the crank on the Kohler is low measured to the mounting flanges because the oil pan is below the mount. The available space from the bottom plates on the frame under the engine to the PTO centreline is about 5-3/8" if memory serves. I know that engine repower kits are available for the Vanguard Vtwin engines but I'm not sure if they replace the drive shaft with a u joint type. If you could mount a Honda clone on the bottom frame it might line up but the problem then is the slanted cylinder makes the engine wider on that side and the side cover will not fit. You may have to notch out the frame to get clearance for the bottom of the cylinder and the oil fill as well. A lot of the clones don't have a coil to generate power. One model that HD sells has an 18amp coil which is plenty to run lights, clutch and charge a battery. The 314 is not an easy tractor to repower unless you are OK with cutting up the frame a bit or are willing to go to a proper drive shaft arrangement. My conclusion was to go to another kohler if I can find one.



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Posted June 14, 2013 - 04:04 PM

I will do a bit more digging on this later.  



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Posted June 15, 2013 - 07:49 AM

The 20hp might be a good replacement for the obsolete Wisconsin/Ducati diesel found in the HT20D.



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Posted June 16, 2013 - 10:36 AM

10 HP single with more torque than a 13-15 HP gas

 

http://www.ebay.com/...=item27bcdc0ddd

 

20 HP diesel v twin available in 1" and 1 & 1/8" crank sizes

 1" - http://www.ebay.com/...=item2a2d6ffab0

 

1&1/8" - http://www.ebay.com/...=item2a2d6ffa9a

 

 

I am thinking the 10 HP single might be a good option for a 314...

I would really like to get a V-Twin Diesel...prices are coming down a bit, but still out of the budget..

 

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Posted June 16, 2013 - 10:39 AM

Diesels have a higher compression which yields higher torque.  If two identical engines are built except for compression ratio, the higher compression will yeild more torque.  This is a simple summary but helps get the picture. 

 

Did some conversion the max torque is right at 20 ft/lb using this converter below:

http://www.convertun...m/kg m/to/lb ft

 

The k321 in optimal condition is 14- HP but I cannot find the torque rating.  I will work on that a bit more...

A couple other factors that affect torque is the length of the fuel burn (longer burn gives more torque) and the stroke of the piston (longer stroke gives more torque).


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Posted June 16, 2013 - 11:13 AM

A couple other factors that affect torque is the length of the fuel burn (longer burn gives more torque) and the stroke of the piston (longer stroke gives more torque).

 

Yep... I was going for an apples to apples.  You are right... stroke and time valves are closed also make a huge difference.






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