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#1 massey driver ONLINE  

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Posted November 05, 2010 - 09:01 PM

I had a chance to buy a Allis 716H today. So went and took a look and brought it home.It needs work for sure as the engine is seized.It's going to be a winter project.What I need to know is do you pull up or push down on the thingy under the seat to push it around safely,so its OK on the hydro. It came without the grill no biggy.There was a HD tiller,snowblower,mower deck for the awesome price of $ 320. As you can see its got a new home now and I have me a winter project for sure.:laughingteeth: Larry

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Posted November 05, 2010 - 09:02 PM

Nice.

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Posted November 05, 2010 - 09:03 PM

Congrats on your new Tractor!
Should make a nice winter project :thumbs:

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Posted November 05, 2010 - 09:18 PM

The Allis 416 had a disengagement lever on the differential. I am thinking the newer 716 hydro system has the buttons sticking up from large nuts on the top of the hydro unit? If so, you push them down & they stay down while pushing. Once engine is started, the buttons should pop back up.

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Posted November 05, 2010 - 09:25 PM

The Allis 416 had a disengagement lever on the differential. I am thinking the newer 716 hydro system has the buttons sticking up from large nuts on the top of the hydro unit? If so, you push them down & they stay down while pushing. Once engine is started, the buttons should pop back up.


Well then I guess I did it right as I had pushed them down.Thanks for the info.I got a parts manual and a service manual for the Kohler K361 as well.I'll have to try and figure out what to scan them into and try to download them into the manual section.Problem being on dial up don't think it will work out to good.Any sugestions.I was thinking if I was to scan them into a file and burn them onto a cd then I could send either Daniel or George the cd and then they could download it.??? Let me know what you think. Larry.

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Posted November 05, 2010 - 09:33 PM

Larry, you can scan as a jpg pics, then send via email to one of us that can change them to pdf files for uploading. But, I have the K361 service manual from the Kohler site already, so I'll get that uploaded now. I do not have the parts manual for it though.

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Posted November 05, 2010 - 09:37 PM

K361 service manual uploaded! :thumbs: I hadn't noticed I hadn't uploaded it till you enlightened me.

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Posted November 05, 2010 - 11:07 PM

That's a really nice winter project massey driver! That's a nice haul of stuff for the price too! Great deal, hope that you enjoy it!

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Posted November 06, 2010 - 05:49 AM

Larry, you can scan as a jpg pics, then send via email to one of us that can change them to pdf files for uploading. But, I have the K361 service manual from the Kohler site already, so I'll get that uploaded now. I do not have the parts manual for it though.


Thanks Dan I'll try and do that one day when I get the extra time.Currently doing another project for the same Guy I borrowed the trailer from to haul the Allis home.Trying to get it done for him before it gets to cold [the cold slows me down] :smilewink:Larry

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Posted November 07, 2010 - 10:23 AM

Nice find Larry, you will have a good rig when it is up and running. Just a quick hint for you. You might want to spray a little penetrating oil on those hydro release valve buttons that you pushed down. They can become sticky from rust/dirt build up along the stem. When you get the engine running if those buttons don't pop back up the hydro will not drive. Not a real big problem, you just take the valves out and free them up but maybe a little oil to work on them in the mean time will save you from having to take the valves out.
Good luck on your project.
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Posted November 07, 2010 - 10:34 AM

I just noticed that Kohler K361 is an overhead valve engine, I thought all K series were flatheads, learn something new everyday.

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Posted November 07, 2010 - 12:44 PM

Thanks Mike amd your right about the valves being stuck.I have already put oil on them so maybe when I get a chance to bring it in and start working on it maybe they'll have loosened up a bit. Larry

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Posted November 07, 2010 - 03:23 PM

That's a really nice tractor Larry. Will be nice seeing it in action once you get done working on it :thumbs:

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Posted November 12, 2010 - 10:09 PM

Well I pushed those valves down but they don't want to pop back up.Mike mentioned about taking them out and popping them out.Question is I have them out of the hydro but how do you pop them back out.I'am Kinda nervous about banging on anything so hoping to get some info on how to do this.Larry

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Posted November 12, 2010 - 10:28 PM

I would have to look at one and see just what you have to push on. It's been a couple years since I had one out. I think you just have to work the poppet part back up through the top cap part where it comes out the top.




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