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#1 JohnWR ONLINE  

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Posted May 29, 2013 - 06:36 PM

So today being it was nice i decided to mow my law mowing the side yard went ok set full throttle mowed and when i went to press the throttle in the crap hit the fan it started running away as if there was no governor. So i noticed that the plate that is attached to the governor rod if loos to i tighten it and it still wants to run away. So i start looking again and while moving the governor spring it broke.

 

So my questions are where do i get the springs in the pics that is broken and how do i set the governor now that i think its all messed up.

 

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Posted May 29, 2013 - 07:58 PM

First need to know which motor you have a tr-10d or a tra-10d and also a serial number of it as there is 3 different springs for them. I should have the spring here after that info is answered. You can send me a pm if you want.


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Posted May 29, 2013 - 08:04 PM

Bob will fix you right up once you get him the numbers.  :thumbs:



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Posted May 29, 2013 - 08:19 PM

Its a TRA-10D serial number 4229549. I know it's a 3/8 OD spring do you think i could pick this up at a old school hardware store or should i just stick to oem im just impatient when it comes to having stuff shipped.


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Posted May 29, 2013 - 08:26 PM

First need to know which motor you have a tr-10d or a tra-10d and also a serial number of it as there is 3 different springs for them. I should have the spring here after that info is answered. You can send me a pm if you want.

 Sent PM turns out my throttle rod is bent as well.



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Posted June 03, 2013 - 04:55 PM

Well if my luck was not bad enough it seems my motor is toast the governor was working fine when i noticed that the governor linkage assembly was twisted so i removed it and fixed it now i can turn the governor rod in a complete circle :wallbanging: :wallbanging: :wallbanging:  this is not what i needed to have to put a new motor in this tractor.



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Posted June 03, 2013 - 05:02 PM

Well if my luck was not bad enough it seems my motor is toast the governor was working fine when i noticed that the governor linkage assembly was twisted so i removed it and fixed it now i can turn the governor rod in a complete circle :wallbanging: :wallbanging: :wallbanging:  this is not what i needed to have to put a new motor in this tractor.

 

I wouldnt say the motor is toast....

The governor assembly is very simple and you may have just broke one of the snap rings and it slid out of place.

The only way to know though would be to remove the side cover of the engine.

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Posted June 03, 2013 - 06:46 PM



I wouldnt say the motor is toast....

The governor assembly is very simple and you may have just broke one of the snap rings and it slid out of place.

The only way to know though would be to remove the side cover of the engine.

 

Nope motors shot :wallbanging: :wallbanging: :wallbanging: :wallbanging:  first divorce and a huge custody fight now this not my year.

 

Pulled the motor and stuff got interesting motor has been rebuilt and other than the governor gear marking the intake valve the bottom end looked really good other than the destroyed governor gear.

 

So i decided to pull the head the motor was punched .20 over but due to abuse the piston is destroyed.

 

 

 

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Posted June 03, 2013 - 07:32 PM

Looks like you got the newer style plastic gov. gear.

You could probably pick up another one on ebay for a decent price.

 

Did you pull the piston and rod out to determine the piston is bad?



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Posted June 03, 2013 - 08:05 PM

Just went back out and yanked the piston the crank is grooved idk why no metal shavings in the motor other than the gear.

 

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Posted June 04, 2013 - 06:39 AM

I have a question should tdc been almost flush with the deck or should there have been a gap?

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Posted June 04, 2013 - 07:44 AM

Was the engine running good before the gov. Issues such as no smoke or knocks?

The engine really should get a rebuild but if your in a time crunch or on a budget and not wanting to do a rebuild you probably could get away with just polishing up the piston and rod and putting it back together if the tolerances are within specs.

 

I have seen much worse


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Posted June 04, 2013 - 07:46 AM

I have a question should tdc been almost flush with the deck or should there have been a gap?

 

I assume you mean Top Dead Center?

 

When the piston is at TDC it should be almost flush with the top of the block.



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Posted June 04, 2013 - 08:16 AM

Was the engine running good before the gov. Issues such as no smoke or knocks?
The engine really should get a rebuild but if your in a time crunch or on a budget and not wanting to do a rebuild you probably could get away with just polishing up the piston and rod and putting it back together if the tolerances are within specs.

I have seen much worse


The motor was smoking and yes money is more my issue and not really wanting to push mow the lawn. At top dead center it's about an 1/8 of an inch or less from the top of the block. I wish I could find a used motor and take my time to rebuild this one right

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Posted June 04, 2013 - 05:22 PM

Still not looking good for this motor got the crank pulled and now that it's day light i can see some bad wear in the wall that i don't thin another .010 will clean up and i can't seem to tract down a used engine not looking good at all may have to part this out.






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