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#1 shorty ONLINE  

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Posted May 25, 2013 - 07:50 AM

I have an Ariens S-16 which has brakes that work in tandem. I was thinking of adding a second pedal and splitting the linkage to be able to brake one wheel or the other individually. Like the farm tractors. :D 

 

The advantage that I am hoping to gain would be that say when plowing snow and I slide into the ditch. When one wheel is spinning to brake that wheel to equal out the load from side to side

 

.My  question is will I run into messing anything up inside the hydro or rear by applying a brake to one wheel. It has a Sunstrand hydro with Dana rear.

I don't think it has limited slip rear but I am not certain on that.

 


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Posted May 25, 2013 - 07:55 AM

I can't see that there would be any more stress on it than the situation you described above and want to prevent.

Sounds like a nice upgrade, be sure to let us know how it goes.
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Posted May 25, 2013 - 08:25 AM

You can do that without fear.  The Dana should handle it fine. 


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Posted May 25, 2013 - 08:42 AM

Here are the goodies to put on. Drum brakes and the new pedal.

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Posted May 25, 2013 - 08:59 AM

Looks like you have all the goodies for the upgrade. Keep us posted on the progress!


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Posted May 25, 2013 - 09:52 AM

Some GT's come that way from what I understand. I am thinking of doing the samething . I know the parts I need are available on ebay

 

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Posted May 25, 2013 - 12:18 PM

That is a useful upgrade for sure. My 318 has it and the pedals have not bee linked since I have owned it.
I have a fairly steep bank in front of the house and I can not hold it on track without using the brake on the uphill side.
I also have a couple springs and being able to brake the spinning wheel makes the difference between going and being stuck.

When I got my Ford 1500 I almost got in trouble loading it because the brakes were linked.
It had the 5 ft mower atatched and going up on the tilt trailer the front got light and slid sideways and I could not correct with the steering brake. They have not been linked since. In fact I would not back it off the trailer till i had flipped the linking lever between the pedals.

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Posted May 25, 2013 - 03:15 PM

The JD 314/317 uses pretty much the same Dana/Sundstrand setup and the 317 has turning brakes so you shouldn't have any problems there. 


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Posted May 25, 2013 - 08:57 PM

I got started on it a bit tonight. I need to find a new place to mount the extra pedal. Originally I was thinking to mount it beside the other one. Making a bracket coming off the frame. This will not give me foot room for the left brake. So will have to rethink the mount a bit.

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Posted May 26, 2013 - 11:04 AM

At this point it looks like it will be easiest to beef up the running board and mount the brake pedal  to that. Then I could move it front and out without getting to close to the steering arm. My clearances are tighter than I guessed when I thought up this add on.


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Posted May 27, 2013 - 10:07 PM

I'm going to look at mine a little more in depth tommorow but I wonder if it would be out of the question to mount it next to the neutral pedal?
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Posted May 28, 2013 - 06:33 PM

The original idea was to use the existing pedal for the left hand side and the new for the right. This would let me use the factory linkage to cross over the frame. I had thought then I could run the new linkage with a straight run. Last night I looked at again and I think it will work on the running board. If I move it out a bit I will have the foot room and the pedals will be lined up.


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Posted May 29, 2013 - 07:27 PM

Very interesting, I'm on flat ground out here in OK, but I've been thinking about this as well on one my two GT14Hs


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Posted May 29, 2013 - 07:50 PM

Very interesting, I'm on flat ground out here in OK, but I've been thinking about this as well on one my two GT14Hs

I have been around the farm tractors enough to realize how nice individual brakes are. I had this in the back of my mind for some time now, just finally getting started on it.


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Posted May 29, 2013 - 07:52 PM

Turning brakes are awesome when using heavy rear implements that lighten the steering.  On a couple of mine I have 110lbs of cast weights on the front, but when using my Massey 4250 tiller, they still steer light.  Individual brakes shine for this!


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