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#1 mriva OFFLINE  

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Posted May 21, 2013 - 04:18 AM

I have a2418 with 6 lug hubs and 16" wheels and I would like to be able to also run 24" wheels and would like to know if anyone knows of other 24" wheel centers that might fit a power king 6 lug hub. Thanks Mike in Mexico Maine



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Posted May 21, 2013 - 04:41 AM

Welcome to the forum! Should be someone along to answer your question!



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Posted May 21, 2013 - 05:42 AM

Welcome to GTTalk !   Not sure if I'm understanding your question , if you have a 2418 it should have 5 lug hubs with the 24" wheels allready on it , I have a parts 1612 and those are 6 lug hubs with 16" wheels (also the Jim Dandy has 16" 5 bolt wheels)  Maybe some pictures would help , Al



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Posted May 21, 2013 - 06:07 AM

Welcome Mike.  Ok, so you have a 24" tractor that has 16" wheels right now so somewhere along the way there was a conversion done on your tractor.  The front spindles are different on those two models so you either always feel like you are going up hill now or will always feel like you are going down hill when you put 24's on.  Anyway, back to the issue at hand.  I don't know of any 24" wheels that would work for you off the top of my head.  What I would suggest to you is making (or having someone make) a set of adapters if you really want to switch these wheels out with ease.  I've seen this done before with great success.  A fella I once knew adapter Gravely wheels to the back of his PK in an effort to win a slow race.  They switched the wheels right on the show grounds and it didn't take much time at all.  I suppose you could always put another set of holes on one of the rims.  That may be a viable solution.  Good luck.



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Posted May 21, 2013 - 06:09 AM

Welcome! The first two numbers in the model are the engine horsepower, last two numbers is the rear tire size; if it has 16 inch tires now, it would be a 1618. Like said, the 16" had 6 lugs and 24" had five lugs. You could get another set of axles and change them so you can have the 24" tires. Also, the front spindles are taller with the 24" tires, so it may sit low in the front if you use the 24" tires.

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Posted May 21, 2013 - 07:29 AM

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Posted May 21, 2013 - 08:00 AM

Welcome! The first two numbers in the model are the engine horsepower, last two numbers is the rear tire size; if it has 16 inch tires now, it would be a 1618. Like said, the 16" had 6 lugs and 24" had five lugs. You could get another set of axles and change them so you can have the 24" tires. Also, the front spindles are taller with the 24" tires, so it may sit low in the front if you use the 24" tires.

What Ryan said, only the other way around.  First two are tire size (16, 24) and the last two are hp (12, 14, 16, 18).  I know he knows this and was probably in a hurry.  I just thought I would bust him a little.:)



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Posted May 21, 2013 - 09:43 AM

What Ryan said, only the other way around. First two are tire size (16, 24) and the last two are hp (12, 14, 16, 18). I know he knows this and was probably in a hurry. I just thought I would bust him a little.:)


Yup, I was in a hurry to get it posted before I had to leave for school. :D

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Posted May 21, 2013 - 06:40 PM

I appreciate all your responses. I thought the same thing that some one converted it to the 16" wheels but the Gentleman I bought this tractor from had the original manual and a sale pamplet which shows the 2418 having the option of the 16" or the 24" and apparently the original owner chose it with 16". I do like the idea of an adapter, the other option I was thinking on was taking some IH cub centers and having them refabbed to fit. I know I can get axles with hubs on them from Jerry Frank, but I'm only going to go this way if I make it back into a 24 permanently. Things would of been a lot simpler if they had used the same hubs for both wheel sizes. Thanks again Mike



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Posted May 21, 2013 - 07:35 PM

Well he was kinda right.  You did have the option.  Either you bought a 16 or a 24.  That was the option.  There is more to that conversion than just the rear hubs.  To my knowledge, there was no quick switch option.  Is there a model number on the hood?  That will tell you what the tractor originally was (unless the hood was switched at some point).



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Posted May 21, 2013 - 09:09 PM

I have never found any 24" wheels that have will fit on the 6 hole hub of a Power King,  Perhaps the best way is to have an adapter made to  go from the 6 lug hub to the  Farmall Cub wheel disc that is used on PK  tractors.  I'm thinking of having a round 1/4" plate about 6" in diameter and just weld it on the 24"  Cub wheel disc.   As far as the front spindle length, the 24__ models have front spindles that are 5/8 of an inch longer than the 16__ models.

  



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Posted May 22, 2013 - 06:01 AM

As far as the front spindle length, the 24__ models have front spindles that are 5/8 of an inch longer than the 16__ models.

Interesting.  I just went out and measured mine (I have two 16's and one 24) and there appears to be approximately 3" in difference.  We must be measuring two different things.



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Posted May 22, 2013 - 06:39 AM

I would think that there would be a 3" difference or so; the 24" tires have a diameter 8" larger then the 16" tires. That means the radius is 4" larger and the rear of the tractor should be be 4" higher; although, the rear 16 inch tires (on a power king) are size 8.00-16 and the 24 inch rear tires (from memory) are 7.30-24. So, the 24 inch tires are a little skinnier then the 16 inch tires, that would make them shorter then if they where also 8.00-24 and that is why The front spindles needed to be 3 inches taller.

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Posted May 22, 2013 - 10:18 AM

I  purchased a  1968  12/24 with 1 transmission  about 2 months ago,  and was contemplating switching parts with  a 1978 16/14  to get a better tractor with the 24 inch wheels on the rear.  A fellow on another forum told me the difference in front spindles was 5/8" so I measured and compared, and it's 5/8" difference on mine.

    On the 12/24 with  8.3X24 Ag tires   the radius is 18.25" from the floor to the center of the axle.

    On the 16/14 with  9.5X16 Ag tires,  the radius is 16.5"

   On  a 1964  Jim Dandy with   8 X 16 lawn tires the  radius is 16".

The  12/24 measures 21  1/2" to the top of the frame just in front of the wheels    and the 16/14 measures  18" to the top of the frame.     The outside diameter of my  8.3 X24 tires is   36 1/2"    the outside diameter of  my

9.5X 16  tires i 33 inches.  Not a lot of difference.   The height to the top of the frame on the 12X24 is 21 1/2"  just in front of the rear wheels and the frame is about level with the floor, on the 16/14,  it is 18 " and with 5/8" shorter spindles, the front is a little lower, NOT  a bad thing because that makes the engine crankcase closer to level.      Can you tell I'm retired and not real busy?



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Posted May 22, 2013 - 10:58 AM

What everybody is missing here is the 24" tractors have 12" five lug wheels. So to make an original 24/? you would need spindles, hubs and wheels. And there is only 5/8" difference in spindle length.






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