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#46 Amigatec OFFLINE  

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Posted May 21, 2013 - 06:22 AM

There's another storm coming this way, but I don't think it will do much.
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Posted May 21, 2013 - 06:24 AM

They mentioned on the news that in that area, no one has basements, due to the high water table in OK.


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Posted May 21, 2013 - 06:47 AM

After the 1999 tornado, the Government offered people grants to install storm shelters. My in laws live in Norman and they have one, after these were installed they were registered with the state and county, so when the next storm hit, they could be located and checked. I believe they used GPS to locate these as close as possible, because the houses are gone there would be no landmarks left.

They are reporting they 100's of people have been found in the shelters.
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Posted May 21, 2013 - 07:11 AM

There were several tornado's yesterday. One was NW of Collinsville about 15-20 miles and they had highway 75 closed down for an hour or so. That was the one I could hear!


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Posted May 21, 2013 - 08:13 AM

They mentioned on the news that in that area, no one has basements, due to the high water table in OK.

 

I heard on the news the lack of shelters was due to solid rock just under the surface making it almost impossible unless drilled & dynamited.


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Posted May 21, 2013 - 08:34 AM

I heard on the news the lack of shelters was due to solid rock just under the surface making it almost impossible unless drilled & dynamited.

That is one reason for the lack of underground shelter down here. Another is the clay soil elsewhere which causes water to be very slow at filtering into the ground. Around Tulsa, we have granite, clay, shale, and sandstone. None are great for underground shelters.


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Posted May 21, 2013 - 08:48 AM

I know in my yard when you dig down about 10" it gets very hard.

Most the soil in the OKC area is red sand.


Also the death toll has been revised down to around 24. Some of these were double counted.
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Posted May 21, 2013 - 11:20 AM

I heard one report that an underground shelter almost did no good.  The negative pressure was so great that it ripped the shelter doors right off.  The lady lived but this storm was so powerful that no shelter would have been completely safe.


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Posted May 21, 2013 - 11:47 AM

Nothing man made will ever be able to county natures full fury. Mother natrure is one bad B....


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Posted May 21, 2013 - 11:48 AM

I haven't seen any pics or followed news othe than what I heard on the radio, man such devestation.


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Posted May 21, 2013 - 11:55 AM

Most of the shelters the doors open out, I asked one of those companies that sales these why. It seems to me that if something falls across the doors you couldn't get out.

I was told that in most cases the doors get jammed when they open in. Because flying debris will hit the door and jam them. And when they open out, it is easier to pry them open when jammed. These also have a vent to help keep the neg pressure down.
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Posted May 21, 2013 - 12:08 PM

They have revised the death toll down to only 24! That is a good sign. Most of those were the children below ground who drowned!


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Posted May 21, 2013 - 12:25 PM

This is truely sad and I am almost speechless..

  When my kids were younger, they slept upstairs and the wife and I had the bedroom on the ground floor.  We got hit with some straight line wind that blew windows out of the frames and halfway across the living room, and slammed the door that opened out so hard it went partway through the frame and casing and jammed.   I  shoved it the rest of the way through the opening and threw it out of the way with one hand to get to my kids. and get them to the basement.  The next day I discovered it was a very heavy door and a two handed lift? Adrenlin can do some strange things.

 

I don't think it matters if a door opens out or in, if the wind is strong enough it will cause problems.


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Posted May 21, 2013 - 02:07 PM

A frien and I were at the coffee shop yesterday watching thw weather channel and seen it form from just a cloud till it was gone approx. 35 minutes . There was a man ina helicopter who was either insane or had one heck of a telephoto lens or maybe he was crazy along with the pilot            We must pray for all concerned

 

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Posted May 21, 2013 - 03:54 PM

They upgraded the storm to an EF5.




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