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#16 Ryan313 OFFLINE  

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Posted May 15, 2013 - 08:34 PM

Ryan,

I'm sure you know that you have an electronic ignition engine in that tractor.

Good luck with whatever you are planning on doing with that tractor.

Chuck

Yep, I already looked at that. Thanks for reminding me though! :thumbs:



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Posted May 15, 2013 - 08:42 PM

I did not get much done today, basically stripped off everything else except the brakes.

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Looking at the back of the engine, I could tell the head gasket was blown; When I took off the flywheel cover, I wondered if there was a head gasket even in there! There was, but the head bolts where all pretty loose and was causing major leaks. Before I took the head off I did a compression test and only got 25 psi!

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There is quite a bit of carbon build up inside.

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On the head there are even little clumps of carbon!

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I am going to rebuild the engine, I wonder if it would be easier to rebuild and paint it now, rather then do it later when I stretch the frame and build the *censored*? What do you guys think?



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Posted May 15, 2013 - 08:57 PM

Wow! now THAT is one clogged up bunch of fins there!  Darn thing probly been running hot for long time? Guess they never read a manual about removing cover and cleaning once in awhile! Bet your gonna make one of those Case truck like units with small bed in back and tractor for front?

 

I saw today at show an S-10 frame with cowl and dash still on it and had a Cockshutt hood and grill out front over the engine. Painted up pretty red and looked neat with flags and stuff for a parade I suppose. Oh, yeah! get pictures..........get pix.......


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Posted May 16, 2013 - 09:38 PM

I decided that I am going to rebuild the engine now, and not later, so I took it out.

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I have never taken a PK engine out, but have read many posts from people who have and it seems like getting the flywheel off the crankshaft can be a real PITA. It seems like one thing that works every time I have read about it is to use spreader jaws on a port-a-power; luckily, I have one! I put it on there with a good deal of pressure and started tapping the flywheel on the side with a hammer... POP! Off it came! A few more pumps to get it the rest of the way off and it landed on the bench.

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Yesterday I tried to get the flywheel off the engine, but it would not come off. So, I left the puller on overnight with tension and sprayed it with penetrating oil. Tried again today, and still would not come off! I will have to put the airgun on the puller to get it off!

 

The next step is to dissemble the engine, and take everything to the car wash so I can get all of the grease and oil off. Hopefully I get that done this weekend.



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Posted May 16, 2013 - 09:44 PM

Road grader?


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Posted May 16, 2013 - 09:47 PM

GL was right, this is going to be a dump tractor! Here is a picture I made on PAINT a couple months ago.

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The more I think about it, the easier I think it would be to make a completely new frame so suit my needs, then to modify and lengthen the original. The only thing I would be keeping if I lengthened the frame would be the engine mount plates, and steering/ front axle components. I would need some pretty good size stuff, it would end up being something more like the terimitte frames; although, not that beefy.

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Posted May 16, 2013 - 09:54 PM

Looking good Ryan! I bet that dirt on the fins is as old as this PK lol. That was some serious build up!!


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Posted May 16, 2013 - 10:06 PM

Looking good Ryan! I bet that dirt on the fins is as old as this PK lol. That was some serious build up!!


No, I bet the dirt is a few hundred million years older. :D

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Posted May 17, 2013 - 02:22 PM

This will be fun to follow!
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Posted May 17, 2013 - 10:26 PM

This morning I put the air gun on the puller as tight as it would go, but did not come off! One tiny tap with a hammer and it jumped all the way off!

 

I also had a chance to take the frame and engine to the car wash; I missed some spots, but it is 100 times better then it was, now I don't have to worry about 1 inch thick build up of grease and oil!

 

I started to take apart the engine, but stopped when I saw there where more gears inside then I thought there where. The right is the camshaft, middle is crankshaft, and left is unknown, then there is another right below (the way it is oriented in the picture) it, what are they for? it does not look like they drive anything.

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The valve keepers are also puzzling me, I don't know how to remove them! They are not the figure 8 ones, and they do not have shims. It looks like there is a small clip above it but I cant see it and don't want to damage it if that is not how to remove them. Any advice?



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Posted May 17, 2013 - 10:43 PM

Those other gears are counter balance gears. None of my K's have them. The valve keepers should be the same as mine? If so just compress the spring and remove the two keepers with a small screw driver or a small screw driver like magnet. When I put them back I put a small dab of grease on them to help hold them in place. Let me know if my pics look like your valves.

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Posted May 17, 2013 - 11:09 PM

Those other gears are counter balance gears. None of my K's have them. The valve keepers should be the same as mine? If so just compress the spring and remove the two keepers with a small screw driver or a small screw driver like magnet. When I put them back I put a small dab of grease on them to help hold them in place. Let me know if my pics look like your valves.
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No, those have the shims. Mine are different, I did not think to take a picture.

(Check your PMs too)
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Posted May 18, 2013 - 06:26 AM

Pretty cool dump tractor you'll have !   Are you keep it single or duel rears ?


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Posted May 18, 2013 - 06:50 AM

Most folks, especially the tractor pull guys take those counter gears out and leave them out. They don't balance that much and some engines never came with them.


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Posted May 18, 2013 - 07:21 AM

Pretty cool dump tractor you'll have ! Are you keep it single or duel rears ?


If I had a choice, of course it would have two, but I doubt that will happen.




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