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Posted April 24, 2013 - 08:04 AM

Those are sealed beam light bulbs. May be no longer available!

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Posted April 24, 2013 - 08:21 AM

I don't remember where the tag is. I can check when I get home. Have visited the "simple tractors" site? That's the best guide for identifying these tractors.

Joe

It looks like the system 7016 but has the sovereign decals. not the system 7016. I cand find one that has the decals that this one has. it was between 73 and 75. thats all i know



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Posted April 24, 2013 - 08:21 AM

Actually, they made the sovereign in 72.



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Posted April 24, 2013 - 11:38 AM

I dont know the model number, it just says Simplicity Sovereign. Where are the model tags on these things?

 

The ID plate or tag was located on the tractor frame, in front of the seat.

 

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Posted April 24, 2013 - 12:23 PM

It looks like the system 7016 but has the sovereign decals. not the system 7016. I cand find one that has the decals that this one has. it was between 73 and 75. thats all i know


You won't find one that has that style hood and those decals in any Simplicity publication. As I tried to explain in post #5 , that is a 1976 model year tractor with the hood decals that were for/on the 1977 model year tractors. I feel pretty confident that Simplicity just ran out of the "System" decals near the end of the production of the 1976 model year tractors and just used the decals intended for the 1977 model year tractors. Not the first time that they did substituting of parts from one model year to another.

I have seen only one other tractor with the 1976 model year hood and the 1977 model year hood decals, like the one you have shown.

Edited by achomesteader, April 24, 2013 - 12:24 PM.

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Posted April 24, 2013 - 12:59 PM

Thats pretty cool, i was wondering why i couldnt find any pictures of one...



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Posted April 24, 2013 - 06:15 PM

This is a picture of the I'd plate;

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Posted April 25, 2013 - 09:49 AM

Its not there, must have fallen orr or taken off. All thats there is the hole for a manual shifter. Do these have the same hydro pump and motor as a cub 1450? the look the exact same...



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Posted April 25, 2013 - 09:56 AM

I got the model off the engine, its a briggs 16hp, starter generator

 

model- 326431

 

type- 0190-01

 

serial- 7411201

 

The piston and rod went bas so the engine has none. It needs to be rebuilt with one of those kits on ebay. New piston, rings, seals, gaskets, and valves reseated. also carb rebuilt. Anyone know where i can get this done on the cheap in cincinnati? i will but the parts. It would need to have the cylinder honed, and head remachined as well. There is no scoring in bore that i saw, but there are some rusty spots form sitting in a garage with no head on it. I may bore .10 over if they sell the kit that way.



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Posted April 25, 2013 - 11:04 AM

It's a 1974. It's not rare for simplicity to put a 1974 engine on a 1976. I had the JCPenneys version of this tractor. Mine was a 78 model with a 77 engine. Like mentioned above I also had to buy a brand new carb. People tend to over tighten the jets and that strip the threads. When the threads are stripped that causes the carb to leak whenever it's sitting.

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Posted April 25, 2013 - 11:30 AM

It's a 1974. It's not rare for simplicity to put a 1974 engine on a 1976. I had the JCPenneys version of this tractor. Mine was a 78 model with a 77 engine. Like mentioned above I also had to buy a brand new carb. People tend to over tighten the jets and that strip the threads. When the threads are stripped that causes the carb to leak whenever it's sitting.

The carb was bought new when the tractor ran then the rod snapped. So all i have to worry about is rebuilding the innards.



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Posted April 28, 2013 - 08:47 AM

The model you have is the 1973 3316V.

. 3316V? Now that would be rare! If the tractor does not have a builders tag then it could be just about anything that has been cobbled together. We need more pictures? Picture of the transaxle and the center pto.

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Posted April 28, 2013 - 08:51 AM

The tag should be under the front edge of the seat pan on the tunnel housing. . 3316V? Now that would be rare! If the tractor does not have a builders tag then it could be just about anything that has been cobbled together. We need more pictures? Picture of the transaxle and the center pto. The original photos are so poor it is hard to tell if the frame is factory notched for a gear driven starter. Did not know of that modification until I tried to put new engine in my 3414.

I made a mistake! Its actually either the 7000 series model or a 4000 series model. Ian



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Posted April 28, 2013 - 09:21 AM

I made a mistake! Its actually either the 7000 series model or a 4000 series model. Ian

It is likely an early 7000 series but it could be from the photos a 3300, 3400 or early 7000. I think it has full gussets on the frame near the engine so we know the front frame of the tractor as well as the hood are not off a late model 7000. I don't know what hydro is in a CC1450 so that is not much help to me. I once saw an early 7016H with a Vickers that the owners claimed he bought new in 1974.
Photos, more photos!

* I looked up the CC1450 and it looks like a Sunstrand pump so it is really looking like an early 7000 with late decals

Edited by skunkhome, April 28, 2013 - 09:48 AM.


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Posted April 28, 2013 - 06:34 PM

I am buying it tuesday!!!






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