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#1 johndeereelfman OFFLINE  

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Posted April 21, 2013 - 08:08 PM

To all of you John Deere collectors out there that might have some unrestored, unmolested, non-repainted John Deere tractors from 1963 through 1974, please post pictures. Doesn't matter what the model of the tractor is, as I'm not interested in that. I want to compare the paint shades.

 

I have been told that John Deere never used the Classic green shade on any of their garden tractors. The Ag green (darker shade) was the only paint used. I have been on another website, and they will argue this fact no matter what type of proof you present them. Well, since I value all of your opinions here, and I don't care for the other site at all, I want to hear what you guys think.

 

My personal belief is that John Deere did in fact use the Classic green (lighter shade) on all of their garden tractor from 1963 through 1969. In 1970, I belief is when John Deere converted to the Ag green (darker shade) paint, and I'm hoping to prove that theory here.

 

So, what I'd like to see is, if you have a tractor from either one of these year breaks, please post a picture. If you have a tractor from both year breaks, please post a picture of both tractors side-by-side, so that we can see if there is any difference in the shade finishes. The tractors cannot be repainted. I want to see original tractors, even if they are rusted and don't look the best, I still want to see pictures.

 

I don't need any pictures of tractors built after 1974, as all of those were painted in the Ag green.

 

Please help me out if you can.

 

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Posted April 21, 2013 - 08:25 PM

I'll get you the exact info ASAP. Classic was used on two-cylinders, I know for sure. No paint shade was different between regular tractors and garden tractors. Meaning, if that paint is on the ag tractor it will be on a garden tractor of the same year.


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Posted April 22, 2013 - 08:42 AM

I have a 74 JD 112 and it's paint is lighter then my 81 JD 317.. Seems you need to stop visiting the other forum as they are filling your head with poo.. :smilewink: Don't make me burn another banner hahahahahaha


BTW my father bought both JD's new and they have never been repainted.

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Posted April 22, 2013 - 09:01 AM

Me thinks some of the difference might be related to fading due to direct sunlight.  The 67 110 is original and never has been repainted but did get a fair amount of sun exposure.  This machine was purchased new by my grandfather in late '66 at Kreiger Implement in Carey, Ohio. 

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Posted April 23, 2013 - 06:01 PM

Troy here is a before pic of my 68 140.

 

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Posted April 23, 2013 - 08:11 PM

I have a 74 JD 112 and it's paint is lighter then my 81 JD 317.. Seems you need to stop visiting the other forum as they are filling your head with poo.. :smilewink: Don't make me burn another banner hahahahahaha


BTW my father bought both JD's new and they have never been repainted.

They aren't filling my head with poo Team_Green, as I believe half of those guys don't know what they are talking about most of the time. When you try and post some knowledge on that site, all they want to do is throw rules and regulations at you, and make an a$$ out of you, so I don't even bother anymore.

 

I would agree that your '74 112 is lighter in shade then your '81 317. This is one of the reasons as to why I'm posting this thread. According to the "professionals" both of your tractors should have been painted with the exact paint shade. I say from 1963 through 1969, all garden tractors were painted in the now days "Classic Green" shade, and from 1970 through around 1979-1980, the darker "Ag Green" was used. I believe John Deere developed an even darker shade around late 1980's through the present, as my Dad's original 1991 318 paint shade is darker than the shade on my 1970 120 or 1973 110. If I'm wrong, then I'm wrong, but I have to follow where the evidence takes me.

 

I want guys to know that there is different paint shades out there, whether through Deere, Rustoleum or whoever. Some guys may not care about matching a certain shade, and probably think that green is green, and if it looks good when their done, that is good enough. And believe me, there is nothing wrong with that. I'm more of a perfectionist, and I paint trailer queens. My tractors won't work another day in it's life time, so when I paint my tractors, I want the paint finish and shade to be exactly as it was when it came from the factory.



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Posted April 23, 2013 - 08:16 PM

Travis,

 

Is it possible for you to take a picture of your 110 sitting next to your 120? I think you posted somewhere that you used the Ag green on your 120, so I'd like to see how the 120 shade compares to the 110 shade, preferably close to the round fenders. Maybe it would be easier to remove one of the round fenders and hold it next to you 120?



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Posted April 23, 2013 - 08:28 PM

Craig,

 

Your '68 140 looks to be the darker shade, compared to some of the original round fenders that I have. I went back and looked at your restoration post for this tractor, and it appears that the paint you are using to restore it is even darker yet.

 

I don't know, but now I'm starting to wonder, if you use the same paint and shade, could it make a different shade variation from one day to the next? Could tractors painted today be a little darker or a little lighter than tractors that get painted tomorrow, even though the same paint was used on both days? Even though the same paint is being used, could variations in drying temperatures cause paint to dry darker or lighter?



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Posted April 23, 2013 - 08:31 PM

Here is a shot of my completely original 73 110.

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Posted April 23, 2013 - 08:37 PM

akretowicz,

 

Thanks for the picture. Your tractor looks a lot darker than Craig's 140 and Travis's 110. Almost looks like the same shade as my Dad's 318. These old tractors can't possibly be all painted with the same paint mixer.



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Posted April 23, 2013 - 08:49 PM

Here is my friends 110.  Never painted...

 

 

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Posted April 23, 2013 - 09:16 PM

Travis,

 

Is it possible for you to take a picture of your 110 sitting next to your 120? I think you posted somewhere that you used the Ag green on your 120, so I'd like to see how the 120 shade compares to the 110 shade, preferably close to the round fenders. Maybe it would be easier to remove one of the round fenders and hold it next to you 120?

 

That 110 is in the barn at Dad's place in Ohio and the repainted 120 is here in Nebraska with me.  I did use the Ag green on the 120.  I can snap a pic of the '82 314 that has NOT been painted next to the 120 if that would help.  Just took a peak in the garage and the 314 looks darker than the 120 does.  Part of that could be shine and part could be lighting.


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Posted April 23, 2013 - 09:22 PM

T,

 

Found this pic of the 120 before work.  I do know it was painted and this shows the differences in the two different greens.  

 

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You can see the different greens in this pic:

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Posted April 23, 2013 - 09:25 PM

The '68 110 in this thread is most definitely original.  

 

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Posted April 24, 2013 - 08:40 AM

Travis,

The 120 original paint shade, and the '68 110 original paint shade, are deffinately the lighter green that would match up more with the Classic Green.

Mowinman2,

Your tractor looks to be a combination of two shades. I'm assuming it's all the original paint, but I can't figure out as to why some parts are a darker shade than others. Thanks for posting a picture of the dump cart, as I was going to touch on implements and attachments later in the thread. I refer back to it later.




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