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#1 justwalt OFFLINE  

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Posted October 16, 2010 - 06:48 PM

Well, we came home today with an allis chalmers B-10 tractor, snow blower, mower deck
and an extra engine.... for $110.00 !!! It was at an auction that Mary goes to now and
then. I decided to tag along with her after seeing a posted picture of the engine.
I could see it was a big old briggs, and I knew it would go for cheap.

It was $50 for the tractor, and $20 each for the other three pieces.

The extra engine, I think, was the original, or was to replace the one in it now.
I managed to get a putt-putt out of it after jumping the battery and dribbling a bit
of fresh gas down the intake. Then darkness came, so, tommorow's another day.

I looked a little, but couldn't narrow the year yet. Somewhere between '63 and '67,
I think. So ya'll, the serial number on the seat pan is, 052591. Who's got the #'s ?

It's definately got some miles piled up. The sheet metal has the typical dings and
dents... and it's been painted red, but it's pealing off in big pieces, The tires
look non-original, but there's chains on them. The seat is a small one, and seems
like the seat metal is cracked. The perforated grill has the crease near the top,
but the rest of it is straight and shiny. It's got the off-set steering shaft and
the avation type steering wheel.

SO I guess I'm looking for some links for parts and info. She's greasy from the
front to the back... probably need a few seals too. It's Mary's machine, she mows
the grass anyway.

thankx
walt

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Posted October 16, 2010 - 07:42 PM

Congrats on your new purchase!
Now you know pics are a requirement LOL

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Posted October 16, 2010 - 08:16 PM

GREAT DEAL WALT !!
You want to go to simpletractors.com They have a tremendous amount of info there. With a little leg work, you should be able to track down the manufacturer's model # & download the manual from Simplicity. Let me know if you need help. - MH81

EDIT: Does it say "B-10" or "Big-10"? If it says "B-10" it could be either 63-64 or 66. if it says "Big-10" it looks like they were only 1965. The big difference I could find between the 63-64 & the 66 was the engine size. If it was a 9 Hp to start with, it was a 63-64, if it's a 10Hp, it was a 66.

Edited by MH81, October 16, 2010 - 08:45 PM.


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Posted October 16, 2010 - 09:59 PM

It looks like a 63-64, it has the B-10 badge on the grill and the bumble bee decal.
The "extra" engine is painted yellow, while the one on it now is black. The trans is
yellow too. All of these pieces came from one place accoording to the auctioneer,
whom I know, so if the yellow engine was original, it's a 9 horse, pointing again to
the 63-64 models.

I'll know more tomorrow, I had no time today to dig into it. The engine numbers will
tell more of the story.

The fenders are smaller, (low), unlike the big 10's, and the seat is a simple low back
without armrests.

I'll get on the pictures tomorrow... there's 300 or so on the memory card now, which
I need to put on this new computer.. then I can take some fresh pics.

thankx
walt

ps here's the decals that are on this AC, said to be the late B-10

http://www.wellsimplement.com/b10L.JPG

Edited by justwalt, October 16, 2010 - 10:15 PM.


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Posted October 16, 2010 - 10:21 PM

If your B-10 has the bumblebee decal that would make it around a 1966 or 1967 vintage. The earlier B-10 didn't have the bumble bee. I think you did great on the deal! Congrats!
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Posted October 16, 2010 - 10:58 PM

I didn't know when the "Bee" showed up, thanks.

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Posted October 17, 2010 - 04:43 AM

He,congratulations are your most recent tractor buy.

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Posted October 17, 2010 - 08:08 PM

It's confusing for sure... the first B-10's had the yellow engine and trans, with no bumble bee,
then after the big 10 it was renamed B-10 again, but no bumble bee, and black engine and trans??????

The extra motor, (the yellow one), is a 23D dated 1963... #'s... 23D, 0129 02, 63848
I assumed this motor was removed, it has little compression.

The black motor on the tractor now is a 1966... #'s... 24343, 0123 01, 6611031

Anyway, she runs fine now. New points and plug, all new 4 gauge primary wires, and carb disassembly
and cleaning,and I had to cut back the ignition wire and reset the plug end, (surprised to find real
wireinside the spark plug wire).

I do need carb and intake gaskets, a new float needle and seat... she drips, and the tank needs to be
filled with some abrasive material and rotated for a few hours to clean the heavy rust out.


I've been two hours playing with photos and apparently need a host to make urls,
so.... I'll be back.

walt

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Posted October 17, 2010 - 08:17 PM

I've been two hours playing with photos and apparently need a host to make urls.


Walt, That's what I thought @ 1st, but if you "Go Advanced" after clicking on the reply to thread, there is a paper clip in the header that will allow you to attach pictures directly.

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Posted October 17, 2010 - 08:31 PM

:wewantpics::wewantpics::wewantpics:

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Posted October 17, 2010 - 08:49 PM

Looks like plenty of knowledgeable Allis/Simplicity folks here. No need to go to ST.

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Posted October 17, 2010 - 09:18 PM

I'm back
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Posted October 17, 2010 - 10:22 PM

Very nice find Walt! The only thing I'd throw away in all of that is the ever-present can of WD40 LOL! (Just a matter of personal preference I guess) But seriously, that's a really nice piece of equipment you've got there! Congrats!

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Posted October 17, 2010 - 11:53 PM

I'm seeing that this vintage has real value, some advertised, (used), for up to $1,000 !!!

Mower decks up to $450, and engines up to $500

So, I guess along with my plans to grow and sell organic veggies and fruits I'll be getting into
the restoration biz for old iron GT's.

It's no wonder now why that auctioneer seemed bewildered that no one uttered a word at the $100 starting bid...
and it took many long moments before he dropped to $50, then still not a peep.

Mary knew then to speak up, and that was that. It's definitely a cool looking machine, and the hydraulics will come
in useful for a loader, if I can find one.

I have to get that red paint off though.

thanks for all the encouraging replies... I knew this was going to be fun.

And the WD40 was to wipe down the implements for some outside storage till I can work on them...
keeps the spiders from living in them. Good for slowing the rust down a bit too.

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Posted October 18, 2010 - 04:31 AM

Great find Walt, if you're looking for a web site michaelstractors.com is excellent it has all the info you need & there are parts suppliers there as well. As for the price I just sold a Big 10 for 600.00 with deck & blade.
Good luck on the restoration.




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