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Modifying Belt Driven Snow Blower To Shaft Drive


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#1 BigA OFFLINE  

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Posted April 14, 2013 - 02:54 PM

Hello Guru's:

I live in Canada so the model numbers of my equipment may differ from yours.

I have a

MTD 190-621, 42 inch 2 stage blower

It was originall ordered for a White (MTD) LT-185.

I mounted it to a Craftsman LT4000 model 944.604250 looks identical to 917.257660.

 

I "farmicated" the two together but belt tension and alignment were not perfect.

long story short, cost me $100.00 to replace the belt and that belt lasted 2 hours before shredding.

my thoughts.............

MOVE SOMEWHERE WITHOUT SNOW. ( no such place in Canada)

SNAP KEY OFF IN GARAGE DOOR AND LIE TO NEIGHBORS THAT IT WON'T OPEN UNTIL THE SNOW IS GONE.( all 4 neighbors are widows)

HIRE SOMEONE TO GET RID OF MY SNOW AND MY NEIGHBORS SNOW ( that would be embarrasing wouldn't it)

 

So instead i decided to STOP BUYING BELTS and devised the following plan.

Eliminate the long belt and go shaft drive.

Use a right angle gear box and a drive shaft with a U joints at either end .

Use the existing engagement carriage to engage the right angle drive via a short belt.

The U joint at each end allows the blower to be lifted while the shaft is spinning.

approximate cost

$30 per U joint X 2 = $60

$30 for a 3/4" keyed shaft (driveshaft)

Right angle gear box $100.00 ?????????

Time - no charge.

Should total under $200.00 or two belts and last for years.

 

Has any one done this?

Any thoughts or advice


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Posted April 14, 2013 - 03:08 PM

:welcometogttalk: Welcome BigA! I haven't done a mod like that yet. It sounds like a great idea. I am sure someone will come along with advise. Good luck :thumbs:



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Posted April 14, 2013 - 03:25 PM

Welcome to Gttalk I am Glad to see more and more Canadian people joining the forum I have a tread on making a berco fit on a shaft-drive tractor (http://gardentractor...for-tube-frame/ ) I chose not to look at the cost of a project but the Advantages of it If you need any help Feel free to Personal message me ... also pictures (if possible) tell a thousand words 

Cheers

Ty


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Posted April 14, 2013 - 03:44 PM

Welcome to GTTalk BigA, you have a very interesting project going on there, I wish you luck with it. If you run into problems I'm sure we have the men that can help you one way or another.

 

 

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Posted April 14, 2013 - 07:56 PM

:welcometogttalk:    Sounds like you have put quite a lot of thought into this.

Good luck, and keep us posted (with pictures) of your progress.



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Posted April 15, 2013 - 06:36 AM

Thanks for the warm welcome!

To go one step further in the "frugal" department, I would like to be able to complete this project with re-purposed parts.(read CHEAP).

 

Anyone know where a right angle gear box was used on an older tractor?

This is the costly part....

I saw one on a Massey Ferguson mower deck, but the owner was selling the deck complete as it was in great shape.

 

Any one have one stored and for sale, or know where i could find one?? :wave:  :wave:



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Posted April 15, 2013 - 07:01 AM

Welcome to the forum! Sounds like a neat project. The gearbox could be fun to find, especially one that turns the right direction. I thought about doing a shaft drive for a pull behind mower, but the gearbox was going the wrong direction. Good luck!



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Posted May 22, 2013 - 03:25 PM

Hello Again GT Masters:

New developments...............

Craftsman tractor scrapped!

Sold the tractor but kept the blower.

Bought a Case 446, full hydro tractor.

Vertical shaft motor.

 

Snow blower needs to be modded to fit tractor.

 

Drive options:

I am still thinking shaft drive.

Now that I have hydraulics available I am bouncing the idea of a hydro enabled blower.

 

Your thoughts or ideas are welcome???



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Posted May 23, 2013 - 07:29 PM

Since you have the 446 and it's increased capabilities, I would say that hydraulic is a good way to go.
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Posted August 06, 2013 - 03:18 PM

Problem 1 solved:

 

Found a Berco 48" blower on Kijiji. cant find a model number but it has the oil bathed rear gear box.

 

$200.00  :thumbs:  :thumbs:  :thumbs:  :thumbs:  :thumbs:  :thumbs:  :thumbs:

 

It is shaft drive and came absolutely complete with the optional electric lift cylinder included.

 

Problem #2

 

Spins in the wrong direction. :ah_shoot:

 

Have to sort that out.


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Posted August 06, 2013 - 09:01 PM

Problem 1 solved:
 
Found a Berco 48" blower on Kijiji. cant find a model number but it has the oil bathed rear gear box.
 
$200.00  :thumbs:  :thumbs:  :thumbs:  :thumbs:  :thumbs:  :thumbs:  :thumbs:
 
It is shaft drive and came absolutely complete with the optional electric lift cylinder included.
 
Problem #2
 
Spins in the wrong direction. :ah_shoot:

 
Have to sort that out.


Do you have a pic of the blower and tractor? Might be helpful for us to see the issue.

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Posted August 07, 2013 - 07:08 AM

how do i post a pic?   :reading_the_manual:  



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Posted August 07, 2013 - 10:39 AM

okay sorted out the picture posting thing. :dancingbanana:



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Posted August 07, 2013 - 11:09 AM

Pics of project

Backside of blower drive to blower

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Front side of pulley drive to motor

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Top view of drive

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rear view of pulley drive

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The tractor day of purchase

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Posted August 13, 2013 - 02:41 PM

I thought this might work, 

Your thoughts???

 

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