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#1 motobreeder ONLINE  

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Posted April 04, 2013 - 10:59 PM

I looked at a cub cadet 1250.  I didn't buy because I couldn't get it to run - no spark.

 

Not sure how much it's worth in not-running condition.

 - mower deck looks good

 - motor seemed to have good compression (sounded right rolling over)

 - question regarding the transmission

 

The GT was able to roll reasonably easy.  Does that mean the transmission or pump was ruined?  The lever for releasing the hydraulics is not connected.  I didn't get a chance to pull the cover.  Maybe a better question - if someone has forced the hydro, how does it behave?

 

 

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Edited by motobreeder, April 04, 2013 - 11:00 PM.


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Posted April 05, 2013 - 12:04 AM

Your no spark problem could be just dirty points. Just need a little cleaning.

 

Easy pushing hydro - if this unit has been sitting for some time more likley the hydraulic pressure has weakened from no hyd pressure. Or it has a sticky bypass valve after beong pushed???? it might pop out after the engine starts.

 

Easier to tell after the motor is running.


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Posted April 05, 2013 - 05:15 AM

What condition was the rest of the tractor in?



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Posted April 05, 2013 - 07:00 AM

It may the auto-release valves in the hydro, I do know if they have been sitting awhile they roll a lot easier.
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Posted April 05, 2013 - 07:21 AM

Every time I've rescued a hydro that's been sitting for a couple years, it usually does roll fairly easy even without the relief.  I'd imagine that if you get the engine to run, the hydro will gain itself back to normal.

 

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Posted April 05, 2013 - 08:34 AM

The 1250 came with auto dump hydro valves and should be easy to push.


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Posted April 05, 2013 - 08:49 AM

What condition was the rest of the tractor in?

You're absolutely right.  I see others asking the same question.  I should have asked "how long is a piece of string?"  ;)

Without pictures, it's really hard to describe the condition of a 40 year old GT.

 

Many thanks to the rest of the answers regarding the transmission.  The tractor has been sitting a while and I didn't get a chance to pull the cover to see if it might have the automatic bypass valves.  I think I'll go get the tractor.


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Posted April 05, 2013 - 09:45 AM

I think I'll go get the tractor.

 

That's the kind of attitude I like :)

 

Good luck to you with it. I LOVE my cub... but I also LOVE my JD and my Kubota :D


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Posted April 05, 2013 - 10:00 AM

My 149 pushes easy with the engine not running and the hydro works good. I just don't like the hydro for plowing.
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Posted April 07, 2013 - 09:57 AM

Based on your input, I picked up the 1250.  It wasn't alone.  Package deal included a 1650.

 

 

1650: Put a compression tester on the 16hp kohler and nothing - 0 PSI.  Been sitting in the elements for a long time - the choke is seized, cables don't move.  Also noticed that some bolts to hold the rear end are missing.  Has a hydraulic lift setup.  Looks like it needs motor work - put that aside.

 

 

1250: Needs a few minor updates and maintenance.  After cleaning the points and borrowing a few parts from the 1650, it starts and runs.  The ISO mounts are done - the motor sounds like it's trying to leave.

 

There is one mower deck that looks like it's in good shape.  Hope to get a closer look at this today.

 

The snow thrower may be beyond recovery.

 

 

(Oops - forgot to get pictures.)



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Posted April 07, 2013 - 10:28 AM


(Oops - forgot to get pictures.)

 

OK No Desert for you until you post some pictures!!! :shoot2:  :wave:


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Posted April 07, 2013 - 07:26 PM

Some pictures of the 1650:

Muffler is missing and the hood is broken.

1650-right-side.jpg 1650-left-side.jpg 1650-back.jpg

 

 

Some pictures of the 1250:

There's a weird thumb-screw beside the speed control.

1250-left-side.jpg 1250-front.jpg 1250-dash-2.jpg

 

 

Checking over the mower deck.  Someone added a thick steel plate to the top of the mower deck.  It's not rusted through.  Was this was done as preventative maintenance?

I've pulled the idler pulley and am working out what parts are supposed to move.

The rest of the bolts for the blades are soaking in PB blaster - will pull them off so I can properly lube everything.

1250-mower-deck-top.jpg


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Posted April 07, 2013 - 07:27 PM

You tell by the amount of black/green that these cub cadets were left out - a lot.


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Posted April 08, 2013 - 07:45 AM

Glad you got them!!! To bad somebody left them outside for their entire lives. I think your right on what your thinking on the deck. It probably has quite a lot of pitting under the plate. Good score :thumbs:


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Posted April 08, 2013 - 02:03 PM

Someone added a thick steel plate to the top of the mower deck.

That deck should have a flat plate between the spindle cups and the deck shell... so are you saying there is an additional plate?


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