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#1 superaben OFFLINE  

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Posted March 26, 2013 - 08:16 AM

Here's a fence row Panzer for you.  It is right over the hill from where I live: there's a 105% chance that it will come home when I convince the owner to sell.  I just wish it was tricycle front, I like the way those look.

 

What model am I looking at?  I think I see a Briggs engine, if that helps.

 

Is it complete from what you can tell? 

 

Thank you!

Ben W.

 

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Posted March 26, 2013 - 08:33 AM

That's a shame to have that rusting away out there. I'm sure you will give it a nice home! I can't help on the model. 


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Posted March 26, 2013 - 09:05 AM

cool pic.  Thanks for that!


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Posted March 26, 2013 - 09:11 AM

No idea on the model, but I hope you get it!!!


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Posted March 26, 2013 - 11:07 AM

Hard to tell from the pics but I'm going to venture a guess of a T102 w/wide front. This would be the same basic tractor as the narrow front but with the wide axle. They are actually more rare than the narrow fronts. Of course, all this is just a guess. It might give the model on the moveable casting that has the driven pulley.


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Posted March 26, 2013 - 11:08 AM

Those would make great calender photos. Hope you can get it soon. Thanks for the pics Ben!


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Posted March 26, 2013 - 11:21 AM

Good Luck !  Hope you get it !


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Posted March 26, 2013 - 12:24 PM

Thanks for all the complements on the pictures.  For the record, those pictures were taken by someone whose arm was twisted the right way!  Beautiful pictures and Ben Wagner just aren't synonymous. 

 

I'm going to see what the owner will take.  I'm hoping he has a few attachments in the back shed!

 

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Posted March 26, 2013 - 12:26 PM

Hard to tell from the pics but I'm going to venture a guess of a T102 w/wide front. This would be the same basic tractor as the narrow front but with the wide axle. They are actually more rare than the narrow fronts. Of course, all this is just a guess. It might give the model on the moveable casting that has the driven pulley.

 

Doug, is that where the model tag would be on most Panzers? 

 

Thanks for the info: is there any record to know how many T102 Panzers were made?

 

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Posted March 26, 2013 - 01:54 PM

Doug, is that where the model tag would be on most Panzers? 

 

Thanks for the info: is there any record to know how many T102 Panzers were made?

 

Ben W.

There really wasn't a tag on the early models. Those will have the info cast in that bracket and some had a box that said model and then the model was stamped in. If its not there they were stamped in the frame but I'd have to do some looking to figure out where.


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Posted March 27, 2013 - 07:48 AM

its a shame its rusting away, I pray u get to rescue it.  Looks to be all there


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Posted March 27, 2013 - 08:30 AM

its a shame its rusting away, I pray u get to rescue it.  Looks to be all there

 

You folks have my word that when I grab it, everyone here will be the first to know. 

 

And it won't be long!  Time to go picking!

 

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Posted March 27, 2013 - 02:44 PM

It looks like a 200 series but could be T102 with the wide front end. Apparently they sold a kit for that.  I have a 200 series and a T102 and the model and serial number (for the T102) is printed on a metal type sticker that is on the little tool box below the seat. worst case scenario you can date the tractor thru the Briggs engine. Panzertractors.com has a link for that. It looks like it may have had a mower under it. I think they made a rotary mower for them, that would be a heck of a find.


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Posted March 27, 2013 - 02:47 PM

Just remembered something else, I read somewhere that 102 were sold with a 7 x 16 tire and 200 seriies sold with 8 x 16 tire. Thats how mine were. Who knows if those tires are original but it could be helpful.


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Posted March 27, 2013 - 04:31 PM

Well, I just got home from visiting the Panzer.  No pictures, though, since it was a spur of the moment "anyone home" visit.  Sorry! 

 

The engine is complete but frozen.  I hope it is only a valve, but it doesn't have any gear lash (not a good sign for the cylinder).  The tires are sad: on the side you can't see, one front is rotted almost completely, and the rear is flat.  The other side (that you can see) seems to have decent tires. 

 

I talked to the owner's son.  He said it had been in the family since it was new.  However, the bad news is that the owner's son said his Dad is ready to sell, but he wants $700 for it.  It would take some work: it's worth something, but not $700!!!  He thinks there is a sickle mower for it, and a cultivator or plow.

 

Unless a good GTTalk man wants to put up $700 and come get it, I think I will wait a little while.  The owner's son told me he was sympathetic to the cause, and would like to see it go to a good home. He thinks his Dad's price might go down by June. 

 

However, on another note, he pointed out another Panzer under a tarp.  He said it ran, it was the other Panzer's brother.  I saw hubcaps on the rear, and the same front axle as the first Panzer.  Sounds like it is time for a double rescue, but there is no price on that one.  $700 for a non running Panzer would probably even out to like $2000 for a running one!

 

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