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#1 bread320i OFFLINE  

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Posted March 21, 2013 - 08:59 PM

Currently working on a Briggs which is on a early 60's Porter Cable Surburan. I beleive it to be the original 6hp to the tractor. I can not locate any model numbers on the shroud. The governor is also different then I am use to seeing, more like a cheapo vertical shaft briggs. The coil is also different with 4 mounting holes as compaired to 2. I have no spark, I would like to try a new condensor, then coil once I figure out the model.

 

 

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Posted March 21, 2013 - 09:29 PM

Clean the points with a small bit of fine sand paper folded in half. 99.9% of the time, that will restore spark, if that does not work the check other things like coil and condenser.



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Posted March 21, 2013 - 09:34 PM

Looks like a aluminum  14 c.i. to me.I have one sitting the shed.There should be numbers,model,serial,and code stamped into the shroud.They may be hard to see.


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Posted March 21, 2013 - 09:50 PM

Take a look on the PTO side of the engine. Right under the head should be a square metal plate over the fins on the block. The model number is found on that plate on some of these engines. It is usually missed because of the rust and crud on the plate. But if you use a small wire brush it should be right near the top of the plate.



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Posted March 22, 2013 - 06:21 AM

Clean the points with a "dime" and see if that helps.


Edited by crittersf1, March 22, 2013 - 06:45 AM.


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Posted March 22, 2013 - 07:22 AM

I would still like to figure out the Model of this engine, and I still have not located a number. I checked the shroud and the heat shroud on the PTO side, still nothing. I will try cleaning up the shrouds more today and see if something appears.



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Posted March 22, 2013 - 08:02 AM

Currently working on a Briggs which is on a early 60's Porter Cable Surburan. I beleive it to be the original 6hp to the tractor. I can not locate any model numbers on the shroud. The governor is also different then I am use to seeing, more like a cheapo vertical shaft briggs. The coil is also different with 4 mounting holes as compaired to 2. I have no spark, I would like to try a new condensor, then coil once I figure out the model.

 

Condenser may be different, but the points look to be the same as the Briggs N series.  One of the coils for older aluminum models looks like that with four mounting holes: I have one on an old vertical. 

 

It's probably a 5 digit model. 

 

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Posted March 22, 2013 - 08:13 AM

 I checked  the heat shroud on the PTO side, still nothing.

 

 

Did you remove the square plate held on by one screw?  ....Someone may have installed it with the numbers facing the block.

 

Some of the 6hp B&S engines from the 60's were # 142302 models.

 

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Posted March 22, 2013 - 01:53 PM

Did you remove the square plate held on by one screw?  ....Someone may have installed it with the numbers facing the block.

 

Some of the 6hp B&S engines from the 60's were # 142302 models.

 

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I removed it, but it can only be installed 1 way as it wraps around the cylinder. I did not see anything. 



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Posted March 22, 2013 - 01:58 PM

That's a strange one. Usually the numbers were on one of the tins. Have you checked around the block yet? like around the base.

I'll try and do some more checking in the mean time.



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Posted March 22, 2013 - 07:46 PM

I cleaned the points and flywheel and got spark. I believe this is a Briggs 142300.


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Posted March 23, 2013 - 06:48 AM

On my briggs 12 horse that has the same style shroud the number is stamped in the shroud on the side with the carb.Took me a while to find it

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Posted March 23, 2013 - 06:50 AM

I cleaned the points and flywheel and got spark. I believe this is a Briggs 142300.

 

From the IPL, that sounds like a positive identification. 

 

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