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#1 twostep OFFLINE  

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Posted March 15, 2013 - 11:03 PM

Background: I found this on CL on Wednesday, called about it. We talked about some details, I beat him down on price as far as I could (which was NOT much) and then told him I would let him know later on... Emailed him at 11 that night to accept the deal. Luckily (I hope) I did because he got several calls Thursday morning wanting the tractor... Met up tonight and we finished the deal. Guy was super nice but I don't think he knew much about GT's. He didn't know how to use the parking brake, didn't know the seat was adjustable and as you will read he didn't know the right year. From the way he talked his son does though. And yes, the other JD in the CL add pic's is his sons h1.

 

As of now: So now it's in the garage and I'm happy with the purchase and I hope this thing is a work horse for me. I think I got my money's worth out of the rear ag tires and the mower deck. The CL add said it was a 1972 model, according to this: http://www.weekendfr.../info/index.php it is a later 1969 model which is backed up by the previous page on that site that states that drum brakes are on '71 - '74 models (this one has disc's).

 

I can see it being next winter's rebuild. I needs a REALLY good washing. The hydro and everything else underneath is caked with dry dirt. So I believe the hydro system is sealed up. The engine has an oil leak from somewhere near the intake manifold but she fires right up and sounds pretty good. Engine and hydro both feel very strong. The deck is in amazing shape for the age... Someone had welded round bar to the front lip o fit and did a nice job at it. The spindles are in pretty good condition. I haven't inspected the mule drive yet. The tins are in decent shape. I'm surprised at how thin the steel is compared to my 682 though. NO RUST. I can't believe the lack of rust on this thing.

 

Type: T0584

Serial: 022131 M

 

Sorry for the longwinded intro, here is what you're looking for:

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Posted March 15, 2013 - 11:05 PM

After I get to dig into it, clean it up, etc. I'll post more pictures but for now, more:

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Posted March 15, 2013 - 11:08 PM

Not a green one..... :(  I thought you were a red guy. Those 140's are a heck of nice tractor though. Good score :thumbs:


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Posted March 15, 2013 - 11:14 PM

Not a green one..... :(  I thought you were a red guy. Those 140's are a heck of nice tractor though. Good score :thumbs:

Couldn't pass it up! I've never been a JD guy per se but ever since I've discovered GT's I've had a thing for the H3.

 

I have to say though, the green and red look good together!! I can't wait to get some cleaned up, sunny day pictures of them together!

 

ps: I'm also an orange guy too :D

 

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Posted March 15, 2013 - 11:38 PM

I love the H3's and looks like you have a very nice one.It is easy to tell the early 140's from the later,the early have the old stye transaxle while the later have a Dana 20 rear axle.It also by the looks of the tag on the tin,looks like you may have a newer replacement engine.


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Posted March 16, 2013 - 12:05 AM

rusty, Thanks for the info. How can you tell about the engine?

 

Here are a few more pic's:

 

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Posted March 16, 2013 - 12:09 AM

the old stye transaxle while the later have a Dana 20 rear axle.

A Dana 20 is a transfer case that was used in 4x4 trucks back in the day... are you sure that is right?



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Posted March 16, 2013 - 12:44 AM

In your first post the picture of the engine shows a newer style engine spec tag.As for the axle as i recall you can still go to Dana's web site and look them up,there were 2,a standard model 20 and a HD.I'm guessing the 20,is just a little lighter then the Dana thirty which is a little lighter then the 44,60,70,80.I do remember those transfer cases too,but my favorite was the New Process 205 gear drive,behind a NP 435 four speed with a 390 in that old F250 4x4 (had several of of the 73-77 hi-boy Fords back in the day) Well now that i have went completely off topic.... :wave:


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Posted March 16, 2013 - 12:53 AM

In your first post the picture of the engine shows a newer style engine spec tag. :wave:

The first pic is on the right hand side (if sitting in the seat) and the later pic is on the left side... strange.



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Posted March 16, 2013 - 02:00 AM

The first pic is on the right hand side (if sitting in the seat) and the later pic is on the left side... strange.

Congrats! Nice looking JD :thumbs: It sort of looks like it may be a newer engine, maybe a short block then they used the shroud from the original one??


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Posted March 16, 2013 - 02:16 AM

congrats Bobby, nice Johnnie.

 

and your topic verifies the reason to join GTT: here you'll find no brand grimness :thumbs: :dancingbanana:


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Posted March 16, 2013 - 03:52 AM

Nice looking 140.It'll clean up nice.


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Posted March 16, 2013 - 04:37 AM

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Posted March 16, 2013 - 04:50 AM

Nice H3 you have there! Congrats on getting it!


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Posted March 16, 2013 - 06:54 AM

Definitely a nice looking early machine.  

 

Ok... here are some more clues to the age:

  • 4-legged deere on headlight surround looks to be original
  • Rear diff and disc brakes
  • Green gas tank and black engine (The engine should be green on a 1969 and black beginning in 1970.  This change is related to the move from painting "patio" tractor engines white in '69 to black in '70.  The pros suggest it was cheaper to use one color {black} in all tractors)
  • The deck looks like an early one repainted at one time with later decals installed on it.
  • That is a much later replacement that has been made to look original with the back base painted black. (Same seat on my 314)

That engine has been either long/short blocked at some point.  The metal tag is original to the tractor and the stick-on tag is for the replacement.  I am guessing it was short-blocked.  The Kohler service manual shows a 10 digit serial starting with "24" was made in 1994.  A good running k321 would easily fetch $300 - 400.  You did good on this one.

The one downside is that early transaxle parts are hard to find.  They are durable but not available.


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