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#1 jdcrawler OFFLINE  

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Posted March 15, 2013 - 11:40 AM

Thanks to help from Jim Knutson and Jerome Wilber, I now have cable steering on my Bean Cutler.

This tractor would have originally came with a cable steering system but it had been upgraded to the chain steering system that was used on all the Ridemasters.
I had been looking for the original cable steering system to put back on it and Jim was able to fix me up with one.
Jim did not have a complete cable but he was able to give me the length that the cable was suppose to be so I knew how much cable to buy.
Here is the steering wheel and steering pulley that I got from Jim.

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The pulley on the steering wheel has a drilled hole in the center and a groove is machined into the pulley and runs thru the center of the drilled hole.
This is to hold a locating "ball"  that is clamped on the cable.

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I machined a ball out of brass with a hole drilled thru it so it can slide pver the cable.

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The brass ball is soldered onto the cable.

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the cable is fit into the groove with the ball located in the drilled hole.
One side of the ball is ground flat so the cable can wrap around the pulley and over the ball.

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Jerome sent me several photos of the cable steering on his Bean Cutler so I could see just how everything went together.
This is a photo of the cable on Jerome's tractor.

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Here is the cable wrapped around the pulley on my tractor.

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The cable on the left side goes up around the steering pulley.
It locked into the steering pulley by a steel ball that is pressed on the end of the cable.

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I machined out a steel ball to fit on the end of the cable.
There wasn't any way that I could press the ball on the cable with out distorting it so I decided to fasten it on with a setscrew instead.

I drilled a hole in the side for the set screw.
This hole goes thru the drilled hole for the cable and into the steel on the other side.
The threads are then tapped into the hole for the setscrew.
The cable is not only locked into place by the setscrew pushing against it but the cable is also forced into the hole on the other side.

Here is the steel ball holding the cable end in the steering pulley on my tractor.

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The cable on the right side goes up around the steering pulley and is connected to an adjusting bolt.
The steel ball on the end of the cable fits into a cast piece that is attached to a square head bolt.
Here you can see the underside of the cast piece with the cable and bolt in it.

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The bolt is tightened down until the cable is tight.

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Here is the finished cable steering system.

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One last thing to do to complete this restoration was to mount the new serial number tag on the rear axle frame.
This new tag sure tops off the restoration on this Bean Cutler.

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Edited by jdcrawler, March 15, 2013 - 12:43 PM.

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#2 jim knutson OFFLINE  

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Posted March 15, 2013 - 11:59 AM

beautiful work Ray, i wish i had a lathe for some of the projects i do.


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Posted March 15, 2013 - 12:00 PM

Looking good Ray. Looks like that could get a little complicated. Nice machine.


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Posted March 15, 2013 - 12:20 PM

Very interesting that the steering was set up like that, have never seen nor heard of that before-learn something new every day.

 

 

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Posted March 15, 2013 - 10:36 PM

:yeah_that: Thanks for sharing these details


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Posted March 16, 2013 - 06:03 AM

That's great that you could get the pieces needed to return it to 'as built'. That looks real nice!

Thanks to Jim & Jerome for helping make this happen!


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Posted March 16, 2013 - 06:17 AM

That tractor looks like it just came out of the factory :thumbs:​ .  Nice job Ray, again  :smilewink:, thanks for posting.  

Any idea why the change was made from the cable to chain?  I would think either would be as strong, and the cable steering just looks a little neater/cleaner, plus no chain links to stiffen up IMO. 


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Posted March 16, 2013 - 06:46 AM

Any idea why the change was made from the cable to chain?  I would think either would be as strong, and the cable steering just looks a little neater/cleaner, plus no chain links to stiffen up IMO. 

From talking with other collectors, there seams to have been two reasons for changing to the chain steering.

#1  the cable would sometimes bind up.

#2  the individual wires in the cable would brake from constantly being twisted and untwisted around the steering wheel pulley.


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Posted March 16, 2013 - 06:50 AM

I figured the engineers probably had more info than I did making their decision.  Changes are most often made for the better.  Thanks Ray!


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Posted March 16, 2013 - 06:55 AM

I'm guessing that those two issues would follow heavy use of the machines and if it's not goin to work everyday binding etc., shouldn't be much of a problem.?


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Posted March 16, 2013 - 09:53 AM

I'm guessing that those two issues would follow heavy use of the machines and if it's not goin to work everyday binding etc., shouldn't be much of a problem.?

As far as I know, there isn't any written evidence that those problems were the reason for the change.
People I've talked with seam to think that these were most likely the reason.

From the photos that Jerome sent me of his Bean Cutler, it looks like it still has the original steering cable and it doesn't look like it is frayed at all.
It certainly isn't ever going to be a problem for me as I only use my tractors for taking to shows.

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Posted March 16, 2013 - 10:41 AM

From talking with other collectors, there seams to have been two reasons for changing to the chain steering.
#1  the cable would sometimes bind up.
#2  the individual wires in the cable would brake from constantly being twisted and untwisted around the steering wheel pulley.


Since they only used the cable steering about a year, I don't think those problems would have happened. If it was changed after many years of use then it might cause a problem.
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Posted March 16, 2013 - 11:13 AM

All bean cutlers made came with the cable steering most that tern up with the chain steering on it have green pullys and most likely were put on after the Ridemaster came out.

 

Ray nice work happy I could help you.


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Posted March 16, 2013 - 10:56 PM

Great work there Ray. So have you had the Bean Cutler out for any hill climbs after all the upgrades?


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Posted March 17, 2013 - 07:51 AM

Great work there Ray. So have you had the Bean Cutler out for any hill climbs after all the upgrades?

Not yet.  

Everything is still snow covered here.


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