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#421 lyall OFFLINE  

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Posted November 28, 2013 - 12:18 AM

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do you mean the governor arm?

 

you can tighten the bolt for the governor arm a little,  it should help seal the cross-shaft

 

have you clean and checked the breather?

also check the reed valve in the breather.

 

be careful with the reed valve

I have turned it over and it has helped 

 

one step at a time and you soon will be done


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Posted November 28, 2013 - 10:01 AM

Yes the Governor arm seeps some oil drip out slowly, Where's the breather and reed valve?

 

Looks like I might have to take the muffle off to tightened this and take some stuff off to get the wrench on that nut

 

Is a small head seep a concern? or can you run it like this? or should I pull head install new gasket? I see minute bubbles and black has seeped out the edge on the front and left side


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Posted November 28, 2013 - 10:26 AM

If the head gasket is leaking, I'd get a new one for it. Also, be sure the head is flat using fine sandpaper on glass to check it!


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Posted November 28, 2013 - 10:40 AM

Some people on the kohler forums say they put 2 gaskets cause they are known to leak?



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Posted November 28, 2013 - 10:45 AM

I wouldn't! First, it lowers the compression. If the head is flat and is torqued, warmed some and retorqued, it should be okay. I usually check the torque again after I have some hours on one.


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Posted November 28, 2013 - 10:54 AM

Reading the Kohler Forum's its exactly as Lyall says:  My syptoms oil seeping from Governor arm, oil seeping from head gasket and oil stick jumps up at start up or shut down

 

Forum's say:

 

This can be the Crankcase Breather or a Blown Head Gasket. I have to find the breather I think its the plate under the Carb?

 

 



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Posted November 28, 2013 - 10:55 AM

I wouldn't! First, it lowers the compression. If the head is flat and is torqued, warmed some and retorqued, it should be okay. I usually check the torque again after I have some hours on one.

Maybe it just needs retoqured Grandpa had recently changed the head.


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Posted November 28, 2013 - 11:17 AM

The head needs retorqued after a heat cycle.    Definitely check the breather and it is located below the carb.


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Posted November 28, 2013 - 12:52 PM

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the breather in under the carb

there is a nut that hold the breather plate in place

once you remove the breather plate 

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have you downloaded the Kohler manual

I think a copy is in the manual section  if not go to 

http://www.asberry.net/Kohler.htm

you can get both the owner's and service manuals for the K series motors there

 

 

 


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Posted November 28, 2013 - 02:57 PM

I ran it I heated it up running it twice and torque the head twice and the small leaks are gone, I can see no leakage now. YEA!  THX all

 

That breather plate is leaking though, I was able to get a 1/4 turn on the governor nut. Im going to have to tear it all apart.

 

Had to tear the engine cover off the starter was just humming, See below post?

 

WIFE was pissed that I was working the DEERE on Thanksgiving


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Posted November 28, 2013 - 03:30 PM

This is a pic of another guys starter, it looks the same as mine, note the starter cog not out to engage the flywheel teeth, how does the starter push that cog out to engage? Mine now just spins and wont come out to engage fly wheel

 

The Forums say this: It really sounds like the problem is going to be the battery connected in reverse, the gear is stuck, or the battery does not have enough voltage to spin fast enough.

 

Now the starter is not getting enough voltage? before it was the ignition not getting enough to start, I will grease the gear, apparently the starter has to spin fast enough to move that gear out to engage

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Posted November 28, 2013 - 05:25 PM

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I would remove the starter and clean it.   check the brushes and springs, in the Kohler service manual it should you how.

also in the Kohler manual it shows you how to make a tool to hold the brushes in place so you can out it back together


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Posted November 28, 2013 - 07:41 PM

Several Steps forward and several steps back wards!!!


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Posted November 28, 2013 - 11:04 PM

Your oil leak i assume is coming from the governor arm (throttle arm). You can still buy the bushing that the arm protrudes through. The dealer may carry it. If not go to Gardentractorpullingtips.com. They have them.

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Posted November 28, 2013 - 11:11 PM

The starter most likely just needs to lubed up. Common problem on the 100/200 series, I had the same problem on my 212. lyall's suggestion in post #433 would be to make sure it doesn't happen ever again.


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