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#61 twostep OFFLINE  

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Posted June 05, 2013 - 11:29 PM

Made a quick stack out of some sst tubing. I painted with some header black.
 

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Posted June 06, 2013 - 04:48 PM

I forgot the shot of the corrected return/filter line


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Posted June 07, 2013 - 04:07 PM

Hi.

Nice work you are doing.

I am also building a front end loader for my Gilson. You can read about the project here if you are interested.



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Posted June 07, 2013 - 05:06 PM

not sure how i lost the build on this but its looking great so far cant wait to see more updates of the build



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Posted June 07, 2013 - 05:10 PM

Hi.
Nice work you are doing.
I am also building a front end loader for my Gilson. You can read about the project here if you are interested.


I have been!! Your doing an incredible build!

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Posted June 07, 2013 - 05:10 PM

not sure how i lost the build on this but its looking great so far cant wait to see more updates of the build

Thanks!! Soon

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Posted June 11, 2013 - 04:24 PM

I forgot the shot of the corrected return/filter line


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Is there a special reason why you have mounted the filter upside down?

As it is now all the oil will run out when you have to change the filter element. If you mount it the other way around the oil will stay in the filter element. You will also have a problem to bleed the filter element.


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Posted June 11, 2013 - 04:47 PM

For space. Standard direction hits the wheel at full lock. This has a anti flow back valve in the filter. It will be a bit messy changing filters (but I can deal with it). Between pre filling the filter and that the fluid level is well above the top of the filter there shouldn't be any air. Also the high volume of oil will flush it out quick.

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Posted June 15, 2013 - 06:21 PM

Between pre filling the filter and that the fluid level is well above the top of the filter there shouldn't be any air. Also the high volume of oil will flush it out quick.

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Hi again!

 

I don't quite agree with you.

 

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Normally the filter is orientated with the filter element down. The oil flows through the small outside holes and the oil level rise up from the bottom of the filter element and out through the middle pipe. Air goes alway up in a liquid and it will be pressed out through the middle pipe.

 

Now we turn the filter element upside down.

 

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The oil still flows through the small outside holes but will cross through the filter as soon as it enter and out through the middle pipe. Air goes up and will be collected in the top and cannot escape.

 

I hope you understand what I mean.



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Posted June 15, 2013 - 07:50 PM

I completely agree with you. But there is plenty of modern cars and hydraulic systems that run filters upside down. This is capable because of anti flow back valves in the filters. You pre charge the filter with oil to remove any air while right side up. The valve stops the oil from draining back into the system. As for my setup I will pre charge the filter before installing (no air) and no matter if the valve fails or not the oil level of my resivior is much higher than the filter. air will not enter the filter using this method.

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Posted June 16, 2013 - 03:57 AM

Ok, now I understand. I just misunderstood you. Sorry!

When you say flow back valve I thought it was a counter stop valve build into the base where you screw the filter canister onto.

You are using a filter canister with anti-drain which has a built-in rubber membrane covering the small holes and a valve in the outlet.



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Posted June 16, 2013 - 06:34 AM

Yes sir! You got it!

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Posted June 17, 2013 - 06:50 AM

Open center hydraulics with filter in return line will never ever have an issue bleeding air out of it..
Also never "suck through a filter " only a screen. Or it will most certainly give you issues with your pump..

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Posted June 17, 2013 - 08:14 AM

Open center hydraulics with filter in return line will never ever have an issue bleeding air out of it..
Also never "suck through a filter " only a screen. Or it will most certainly give you issues with your pump..

 

I first had my filter on the suction side, and all seemed fine until cool weather rolled in......cavitation!  Switched it & all was good again.  And I agree, air isn't an issue at all on a return line filter.



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Posted June 18, 2013 - 05:59 PM

So my cylinders will be here tomorrow! Woohoo! But I did get my rear ag's in and mounted today!
Just a head's up to any potential buyers of the deestone tires, it says 10.5" wide but really measure 8.5-9" wide mounted!

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